User talk:BekkerNumbering
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Happy editing! 47.227.95.73 (talk) 13:48, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
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James Russell Lowell[edit]
Hello, fellow editor! I'm curious why you made such drastic changes to the organization of the featured article on James Russell Lowell. The previous organization was fairly chronological; the new "Personal life" section makes things quite disjointed and seems to focus only on his first marriage, effectively removing her story from the main story of his life. --Midnightdreary (talk) 18:30, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
- The article had personal life details intermixed with career details. Those should comprise two different sections, as they do now. I did not remove or add any content, but separated those two sections, which should be intermingled. BekkerNumbering (talk) 22:22, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for the response. I'm not sure I agree with what you're saying. How can a life be compartmentalized in such a way? It seems unusual for a biography to separate out a section on "Personal life"; biographies are inherently personal. I don't see this as a standard organizational option and, considering the article has passed featured article status and even made it to the main page intact, I'm not sure this is an improvement. Would you mind terribly if it was set back to the way it was? Generally speaking as far as organization, I mean, as I know you made some additional improvements along the way. --Midnightdreary (talk) 00:33, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Nearly every biography on here is structured that way. The benefit of breaking them out into these separate sections is that it allows readers to identify those sections of interest. Most have at least three separate sections: Early life and education, Career, and Personal life. For the same reason that Personal life is separated from Career, Early life and education are separated from the Career section. BekkerNumbering (talk) 00:36, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, but that's not been my experience since I've been working on Wikipedia. I'm going to take this to the article's talk page and see if we can get some consensus from others. That being the case, it's more traditional to revert back to the "settled" version prior to the contention. I will do so now. --Midnightdreary (talk) 01:41, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Nearly every biography on here is structured that way. The benefit of breaking them out into these separate sections is that it allows readers to identify those sections of interest. Most have at least three separate sections: Early life and education, Career, and Personal life. For the same reason that Personal life is separated from Career, Early life and education are separated from the Career section. BekkerNumbering (talk) 00:36, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for the response. I'm not sure I agree with what you're saying. How can a life be compartmentalized in such a way? It seems unusual for a biography to separate out a section on "Personal life"; biographies are inherently personal. I don't see this as a standard organizational option and, considering the article has passed featured article status and even made it to the main page intact, I'm not sure this is an improvement. Would you mind terribly if it was set back to the way it was? Generally speaking as far as organization, I mean, as I know you made some additional improvements along the way. --Midnightdreary (talk) 00:33, 8 March 2024 (UTC)