User talk:AzaToth/Archive March 2007

Unmaintained

Hi, AzaToth! I noticed you added {{unmaintained}} to WP:CVU again. If you could be a bit more detailed about the "outdated and inconsistent information on this page" that you mentioned in your edit summary, it would be quite helpful. You may reply on Wikipedia talk:Counter-Vandalism Unit, here, or on my talk. Thanks, Dar-Ape 02:18, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Mostly the IRC information is totally out of date. As I was looked on the history of the page, I saw that there has been few edits latly, thus concluded that the page is per fact unmaintained. _→AzaToth 18:47, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. I have only used IRC a handful of times, so I'll bring this up at CVU talk. Best, Dar-Ape 03:03, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

A little JS help

I was wondering if you could tell me how twinklespeedy.js retrieves the name of the first contributer to a page. I looked at the source code for it but because I don't really know anything about XML I couldn't figure out how it works. I would appreciate whatever hints you could give me.--Dycedarg ж 00:45, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

I take the data from the API, I retreve data of one revision in reverse order, thus the first revision. _→AzaToth 00:47, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Ah, I hadn't noticed that page. Thanks.--Dycedarg ж 01:33, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Need update to User:AzaToth/twinklespeedy.js

Template:Db-autobio is just about to be deleted through this TfD and is deprecated in favor of db-bio. This script of yours is fairly widely used and gives an option for using db-autobio. I would update it myself except it is fully protected. Please update this script at your earliest convenience or else your users will end up inserting redlinks instead of CSD tags. —Dgies^t c 07:17, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Will do it. _→AzaToth 11:18, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Question

Where can I find the source of the template that runs the ACID history page? It's a strange template name, which makes it all the harder to find the source. Diez2 03:30, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Article Creation and Improvement Drive/History/Entry _→AzaToth 04:25, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Open Revert Page in New Tab

Is there a way to make it so that if your going through a vandal's contributions page and reverting them all, the revert action automatically opens up in new tabs instead of having to right click each of the revert buttons? Also, why when Twinkle is set to open user talk's in new window, it opens it in a second window if a second one is already open. (ex. you revert two things of vandalism right after each other, but when you go to warn both user's after, only the first page shows in the new window because the first page is located in the back button of the browser. --TeckWiz ^ParlateContribs_@ 17:50, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps WP:TWINKLE#userTalkPageMode may be to some help? _→AzaToth 00:17, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Like I said, it's already set to window. But if you revert two using right after each other without warning the first one in between, the second user talk will open up where the first user talk was, instead of in a 3rd window. --TeckWiz ^ParlateContribs_@ 01:53, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Like it says, "window" will reuse the opened window, use "blank" for a new blank window for each. _→AzaToth 12:54, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Opps. Sorry, must of missed that. Thanks! --TeckWiz ^ParlateContribs_@ 19:10, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Re [1]

Much of the information on WP:CVU is actually transcluded from Wikipedia:Cleaning up vandalism/Tools (which is also transcluded into WP:CUV). Consequently, the edit history of WP:CVU itself does not reflect the many updates that have been made to the tool list. If the information on the IRC channels -- which is from Wikipedia:Cleaning up vandalism/Tools -- misattributes the owner of these channels, you are welcome to correct it. As to whether the CVU still exists, I can confirm that it does, primarily due to the efforts of PseudoSudo and myself to defeat Bobby Boulders' plot to destroy the CVU by nominating it for deletion using Dr Chatterjee as a sockpuppet -- see Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Dr Chatterjee, Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Counter-Vandalism Unit (second nomination), and Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Counter-Vandalism Unit (third nomination). As a result of my extensive arguments against the deletion of the CVU, I now have the distinction of being the only user whose talk page is currently being targeted by Bobby Boulders for vandalism -- see Special:Contributions/Mister_Sunshine, for example. John254 17:53, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

About the IRC channels, I can only fix some of them, as for the "cvu" channels, that needs to be one of the regular on those channels to change it, as it requires level 5 access to enter #cvu. _→AzaToth 17:56, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Awards Coordinator referendum

There has been some conflict at Wikipedia:WikiProject Awards. Please vote on the Coordinator referendum. --South Philly 20:10, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Twinkle Problem

I add the script but there is a wrong java script warning every time I try to use it? Did I do anything wrong? Please help. My monobook is here. Thanks. KGV 09:09, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

you have forgot including some required files. _→AzaToth 10:22, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

I don't understand KGV 13:15, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

When I checked, you hadn't included morebits.js etc... Did you remember to purge your JS cache? _→AzaToth 19:20, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

POTD scheduling

Hi, I noticed you scheduled a few PsOTD. You should read the POTD scheduling guidelines. Thanks. howcheng {chat} 01:06, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

RfA nomination

I know I was one of the opposers in your last RfA, but I think you have definitely made improvements and your work with the project has definitely won me over. If you feel that the time elapsed from your previous RfA might go against you in this RfA, by all means, decline the nomination, and I'll come back in a few weeks. But I honestly think that you are ready to go up right now. Most of the concerns in your previous RfA were about your answers to the questions, and I think you can easily fix up that issue. Hope you accept my nomination. I have successfully nominated a handful of other users to adminship (most of them passed almost unanimously). =) Nishkid64 22:39, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

I will create the page if you accept the nomination. Nishkid64 22:41, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Candidate, please post your acceptance here:

Yea, why not... I don't think it can go worse than last time :) Though I'm a bit busy till Tuesday (exams etc...), so no hurry. _→AzaToth 13:23, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Okay, let me know when you're ready, and I'll make the RfA page. =) Nishkid64 17:41, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

It's all shiny now capt. _→AzaToth 14:54, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Okay, I'll make the page and nomination soon. I'll let you know when I'm done. Nishkid64 22:55, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Twinkle's compatibility

Could you please take a look at my monobook JavaScript and see if I have any scripts that are incompatible with Twinkle? It's still not working. Thanks, Pyrospirit ^{Flames Fire} 21:51, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

A quote that you may like

If you like this quote, can you add it to your userpage?

The only users who add a template to an article that denounces it's quality are those who lack the ability to improve it.

—  ~Steptrip

Sorry if this is slightly offensive to anyone.  ~Steptrip 23:50, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Twinkle and Safari

I am writing to let you know that I would consider myself to have tested Twinkle sufficiently on Apple's Safari browser, and that it does not work. You may want to add "not compatible with Safari" to the heading on the Twinkle page, under item 2. Thanks for the tools, however, they work great on my home computer (where I'm using Firefox). Keep up the good work! –King Bee ^{(τ • γ)} 15:34, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Ok, thanks for the test, does anything works, or does it just do "nothing"? _→AzaToth 15:41, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Some things work, like the "last" tab, and the "since mine" tab, but that's pretty much it. Clicking on "rollback" or "restore this version" and the like do absolutely nothing, and you already know about the [1], [2], [3], and [4] tabs having the width problem (you were notified of this a while ago, and I confirmed it with a proof using a screenshot). Safari is usually pretty good about being compliant, but something is just fishy here. I'll try updating a bunch of crap and then get back to you, see if that does anything, but I'm pretty sure all my stuff is up to date as it is. Thanks again. –King Bee ^{(τ • γ)} 15:53, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Cookies for being helpful

Have some cookies for helping me get Twinkle to work. :) Pyrospirit ^{Flames Fire} 03:03, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

i am NOT seeing rollback functions on twinkle script

i am having a problem with twinkle. everything used to work out fine until today. now i am forced to use the non-admin undo revision function not the admin rollback. can u fix this problem? —Meteoroid 02:17, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

That's strange, because Twinkle doesn't hijack the admin rollback button. _→AzaToth 04:02, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Could you check over my monobook.js and see what's the problem on why twinkle's rollback functions aren't working properly? —Meteoroid » 01:06, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

User:AzaToth/salt.js

I've added this to the WP:TWINKLE collection. Feel free to revert (it's your set of scripts after all), but I find this useful and I'm sure others would as well. – Steel 02:18, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

WP:TW

could i have some help for some reason i can not use the twinkle rollback tool Cocoaguy ここがいい _contribs^talkTodays Pick 01:10, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

quick TW question

Hey AzaToth, would you mind looking at my monobook quick and let me know what settings for TW will make so that User talk pages I tag aren't set to auto watch? Some days I tag a bunch and might forget to remove them, and every couple days I end up having to manually remove dozens of random IP talk pages or throwaway SPA vandal accounts... - Denny 03:54, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Werdnabot Indexes

I noticed the other day that you added the Werdnabot index code to the template specified in the instructions here, and was wondering if that might be something better suited in a separate template that's documented in the Werdnabot Howto, rather than just being included by default whenever anyone requests Werdnabot's services. It seems that the feature has existed for a while (in some form or another), but I hadn't heard of it until somewhat recently, and it seems like having it on by default (and not really documented at all, as far as I can see) could cause problems if people want to use HBC Archive Indexerbot to index their archives - both bots might be trying to update the same page, if the user doesn't realize that Werdnabot is updating that page. I hope this doesn't come across as "bot envy" or "my bot's way is better", because there's certainly room for both bots to serve similar purposes, I'm just hoping to avoid confusion on both ends of the equation. I'd be interested to hear what you think on the issue when you have a chance. Thanks! —Krellis (Talk) 05:53, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

The problem with HBC Archive Indexerbot is that it can't handle the now default page format (Archive Month Year). _→AzaToth 12:22, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Default according to whom? WP:ARCHIVE still refers to archiving with sequentially numbered archives, and all of the other talk page information I just checked is either silent on the issue or points to that page. Regardless, I don't see that as the main issue - as I said, I think they both have valid and useful places - since use of Werdnabot is discouraged on article talk pages, HBC Archive Indexerbot would remain useful there even if Werdnabot indexed every user talk page it serves. My main point still stands, though - silently making it the default, without any type of documentation, is going to confuse people, and potentially cause problems. I really think it would be in everyone's best interests for it to be a documented option, rather than a default. —Krellis (Talk) 15:21, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Re: Ad suggestion

Have made this one: File:Disambiguation pages.gif _→AzaToth 15:24, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Cool. Now the question is... is it better or worse than the one I already did? :)

Perhaps I should run both of them. Any thoughts? – Qxz 15:49, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

One thing I should point out... mine is 9Kb, yours is 267Kb. We need to be kind to dial-up users! – Qxz 15:52, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Dial up users? what is that? :) Nah, I think yours is good enough. _→AzaToth 16:13, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Very nice. The image names are a bit misleading, now that you've made two of them... anyway, interesting ad. I'll add it to the template, and I guess I'd better change the credits to "Qxz/AzaToth", too. To be quite honest, I don't want my articles to look like *either* of those things :) – Qxz 17:42, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Twinkle Protect

Why doesn't twinkle protect show up on user and user talk pages? --TeckWiz ^ParlateContribs_@ 23:33, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Good question, as I said, pretty new, bugs must be available. _→AzaToth 23:37, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

It does for me. _→AzaToth 23:37, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Taxobox problem

Hi AzaToth,

When you've got a moment, can you have a look at the discussion at Template talk:Taxobox#No support for variety rank please? Hesperian 04:37, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick help with this, AzaToth. KP Botany 03:49, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

RfA nomination

It seems that you nomination is becoming a bit overdue. Many users did not notice your RfA nom. Perhaps you should ask a bureaucrat to extend the overdue date of your RfA nom. Cheers. —Meteoroid » 03:41, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Oh, about your indexing, please use the HBC Archive Indexerbot for archive indexing. Cheers. —Meteoroid » 03:45, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Re: your talk page

Would it be possible for you to reply on your talk page instead of others talk page, it makes it rather difficult to follow discussions. _→AzaToth 16:45, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Hm, fair point. On the other hand, many people (myself included) prefer seeing the "new messages" bar the moment we get a reply, rather than checking our watchlists / the other person's talk page every five minutes looking for an answer. Tell you what, I'll reply in both places. More work for me, but less for you :) – Qxz 17:19, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

HBC Archive Indexerbot

I've implemented your suggestion for dates of first/last comment in a topic for the HBC Archive Indexerbot, and you can see it in action in my archive index. The next item I plan to tackle from my TODO list is your other comment regarding the inability to handle month-named archives. At least initially, I think it will be an option that will cause the bot to simply search the links in the requesting page for links to subpages with "Archive" in the name, and index them. Trying to guess different month formats seems like it would not work very effectively, so that is the best solution I have come up with so far. Please feel free to let me know if you have any further comments or suggestions about the bot (I'll be watching this space for replies, or you can always get my attention on my talk). —Krellis (Talk) 17:03, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Have edded now indexbot to this page, please tell me if I have amde something wrong. using User talk:AzaToth/indextemplate as template. _→AzaToth 18:24, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

It doesn't understand the "./pagename" syntax for relative links, so I've changed that to reflect the full path names (that's another feature on my to-do list). I'm not 100% sure it will work with your archives, even with just the one page, and leaving out the <#> from the mask, because of some parts of the code that aren't quite perfect. I'll give it a run and see what it does, but I can't promise it will work (yet - I definitely want to make it possible for you to use the bot with your archive style!) —Krellis (Talk) 19:32, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Okay, I've gotten it working for a single mask, now I'm adding individual masks for each archive I found with Special:Prefindex, so you can have a complete set indexed for now. —Krellis (Talk) 22:08, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

RfA

Okay, I'm done at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/AzaToth 4. Feel free to accept the nom now, and thoroughly answer the questions. Remember, you wouldn't want the RfA to fail because of your answers :-P. Best of luck, AzaToth. =) Nishkid64 23:54, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

I'll try to write tomorrow. _→AzaToth 03:16, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

If you would like a co-nom, I'd be happy to write one. Feel free to say no. —Doug Bell ^talk 20:08, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

I don't have any problem with that. _→AzaToth 21:06, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Done. I kept it short and to the point. —Doug Bell ^talk 21:43, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

It's about time, I thought maybe you'd had it with the fickle RfA process...looks like WP:100, which is long overdue. —Doug Bell ^talk 23:38, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Ads

How do you make those ads (e.g. which program do you use, what do you do to add the transitions, etc.).  ~Steptrip 20:02, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Gimp_→AzaToth 18:12, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Heh

Little new at VP. ;) NSR77 19:44, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

OpenTalkPage

Hi! I use TWINKLE a lot and love it, but I have noticed that it says "Opening talk page of user ..." while doing rollbacks, but I never actually see the talk page open. I am using Firefox 2.0.0.2 on Windows XP, and wondering if something with my setup is causing the problem. I have numerous addons, and I force popups to open in new tabs. I can let you know any other useful info about my setup if that will help. Thanks! -- Whereizben - Chat with me - My Contributions 20:39, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

RE:Gimp

I have tried to download the file numerous times, but I can not get it decompressed. *Sigh*  ~Steptrip 01:30, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Re: WP:WPSPAM

Could you possibly make something up for WP:WPSPAM. We can always use new volenteers to help deal with spam and advertising links. Enjoy the irony, and thanks ;) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Eagle 101 (talk • contribs) 00:18, 14 March 2007 (UTC).

here's an ugly one I made:

_→AzaToth 04:44, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Heh, nice. Almost as annoying as the spam itself... :) – Qxz 05:08, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Template:Template categories

I ran into Template:Template categories and I figured it might be suitable for a db-author ??? --TheDJ (talk • contribs • WikiProject Television) 14:16, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Re: Newest addition

_→AzaToth 19:50, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

But there *is*... in fact, there are hundreds. Oh, never mind :) – Qxz 19:52, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Make tabs smaller

Hi! I apparently have so many scripts that add tabs that the [s] (single use) tab doesn't show unless I remove a script. Is there a way to make the tabs smaller? --TeckWiz ^ParlateContribs_@ 01:41, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Hi. Just wanted to ask again. Is there? ^ --TeckWiz ^ParlateContribs_@ 01:40, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

You can probably resize the tabs by changing something in either your monobook.css or your monobook.js. I noticed in my experience with this problem that the default MediaWiki CSS doesn't give the tab bar full available width. You can see my monobook CSS for a tweak I made that seems to work most of the time (it works in Firefox for sure). It involves specifying that #p-cactions (the tab bar) should be at least so wide, in my case 855px (for a 1024x768 monitor). If you have a larger or (doubtfully) smaller monitor, you may want to increase or decrease this number when you add it to your monobook.css. I set it to a value that works on my primary computer, but this can take some experimentation to find if you don't have a way to measure the width of #p-cactions in your browser. If my tip isn't clear to you, feel free to respond below. Hope it helps you! — Tuvok[^T@lk/_{Improve me}] 02:19, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

I don't understand that much. And wouldn't I want to set a max size, not a min? --TeckWiz ^ParlateContribs_@ 02:31, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

The hack I use increases the length of the tab bar in my browser. I found that tabs were getting cut off because the tab bar doesn't actually span the whole width of the content column. As for actually making the tabs smaller, you might try setting a smaller font size in #p-cactions using the same file. Let me know if you need specific instructions. — Tuvok[^T@lk/_{Improve me}] 04:38, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Vladimir Lenin CotW

It appears to me that Winston Churchill had more votes. Owen 04:30, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Hmm, when I did my check, Vladimir had 37 votes, and where on the top of my list, now Churchill have 40 votes due my calculations. _→AzaToth 12:47, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Template:Talks

What does {{talks}} do? Or is it just a test you created and then forgot about? – Qxz 06:09, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

I really don't remember what it was for. _→AzaToth 12:47, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Twinkle and backslashes

Hmm... noticed some people at AIV seemed to be reporting non-existing usernames, earlier. Slowking discovered that the reports seemed to be omitting backslashes from usernames, and I noticed the reports were being generated by Twinkle. ;) Example username, for your reading pleasure. I haven't actually dug through the code enough to have any idea why this might be (and while the guess that it's Twinkle seems to make sense, it is still just a guess). But, there you go. I think this is the second or third time I've pestered you about something to this effect, if there's a place you'd rather have possible bugs reported, let me know. :) – Luna Santin (talk) 07:48, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Hmm, do you mean it's adding an extra backslash, or that it's omitting one? _→AzaToth 12:49, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Twinkle For Internet Explorer.

I have a question, are you ever going to create a version of twinkle that works with Internet Explorer? I used Firefox briefly a few minutes ago to try twinkle, but I don't like using that browser. I have removed twinkle from from monobook. Will you ever make a version of twinkle, or something similar, to work with IE? I'm not criticizing twinkle, it was great when I used it briefly, but I like to use IE and not Firefox. Acalamari 22:48, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

The problem is that I can't test for IE, as I'm not using Windows. _→AzaToth 22:54, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Ah...okay. Sorry. Funny thing is, I can't use any of the vandal tools actually; I have to use the good old' "go into the history and select a previous version" method; none of the tools seem to work with IE; they all only work with Firefox or the other browsers. My monobook is empty. Acalamari 23:11, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

WP:100

You're RfA has reached it, so I have added it. Congratulations. :) Acalamari 03:13, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

I'll second that. :) — RevRagnarok ^{Talk Contrib} 03:15, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Adverts

Hey. Cool wikipedia ads for talk pages. Can you advertise the Wikipedia:Department of fun? Retiono Virginian 14:48, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

This one good?

_→AzaToth 16:32, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

TW request re User:AzaToth/twinklewarn.js

Can you add a "blatantvandal" button? It would be a handy one to have; that template is a nice compromise between level-1 and level-4 for new users who are being disruptive off the bat while assuming good faith. I love the program by the way. It's like TiVo for Wikipedia. -- TedFrank 03:36, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

There's already a new uw-bv template. I just asked AzaToth to update the single issue templates, so it should be added in the "s" tab soon. --TeckWiz ^ParlateContribs_@ 19:36, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Talk page

Uhh...change to what colors? Nishkid64 20:36, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

The choosen background color you are using is giving me an headache. _→AzaToth 20:41, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

What do you propose I change it to? I have light cyan as my user talk page background. I didn't think that'd be a problem. Nishkid64 20:43, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Hmm...it looks dull, but I really don't care what color it is. Nishkid64 20:51, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

I'm using an LCD, and some colors as background can really stand out, and almost hurt my eyes. _→AzaToth 20:54, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Updating TW warn

Can twinkle warn be updated. There are a few new single use templates, and the uw-legal series has now been made into a single use, so it has to be taken out of the number tabs. --TeckWiz ^ParlateContribs_@ 19:22, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Me fix that... _→AzaToth 19:23, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! However, there's one mistake. Clicking the blatant vandalism button generates the template uw-3bw , instead of uw-bv. I also think you forgot uw-pinfo. Thanks!--TeckWiz ^ParlateContribs_@ 02:43, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Fixed. _→AzaToth 13:49, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

TWinkle - Mac OSX & Safari

I have added the relevant code to my monobook (and purged the cache). No instructions appeared. Can you confirm this is because it won't work on the above platform? Thanks. Ben MacDui (Talk) 17:01, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

User:AzaToth/twinklewarn.js

There's something wrong with one of the warnings on this page. For the "blatant warning" temp. it should be {{uw-bv}} instead of uw-bw. --KZ ^{Talk • Vandal • Contrib} 22:52, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

whoooops _→AzaToth 22:56, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The RickK Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
		For coming up with such a good revert script. Thanks! Kaori Mogami 17:16, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Undefined edit summaries

When I use a twinkle function with an automatic edit summary, it sticks "undefined" at the end. Would you mind taking a look at my monobook.js and see if I messed something up? John Reaves (talk) 11:36, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

I also can't get the IP warning to not show. John Reaves (talk) 22:55, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

It seem forst that you have copied the morebits.js code directly into you monobook,js, that version might be old, and might interfere with the linked one. Check so that your config are correct (see WP:TW) _→AzaToth 23:03, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Okay, I removed it, but the edit summaries still say undefined and the IP warning still shows up. John Reaves (talk) 00:55, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Test copying the default config (I see you are using an old one). Change the settings you want to change, and test. If it works, please try to remove one of each non-changed settings, to see which one doesn't work properly. _→AzaToth 01:35, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

I guess it's the edit summaries and the ip warning because they all seem to work. I tried to get rid of the rollback features (I don't need it anymore) and it still show up in diffs. John Reaves (talk) 08:30, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

That sounds like a catching problem. _→AzaToth 09:38, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

I added [[WP:TWINKLE|TW]] as the edit summary and it still comes up as undefined. What do you mean by "catching"? John Reaves (talk) 14:43, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

The javascript is always catched, so it won't need to be downloaded every time. _→AzaToth 16:12, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Watching pages with Twinkle

I adore Twinkle, but I find find it rather bothersome that for each bit of vandalism that I revert, the page is watched. I'm pretty much illiterate when it comes to scripts, so is there any way to change my settings in order to not automatically watch pages that I revert with TW? Thanks, -- Cielomobile ^{talk / contribs} 05:26, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Place

 TwinkleConfig = {
	revertMaxRevisions 	 	: 	50,
	userTalkPageMode		:	'window',
	showSharedIPNotice		:	true,
	openTalkPage			:	[ 'agf', 'norm', 'vand' ],
	openTalkPageOnAutoRevert	:	false,
	openAOLAnonTalkPage		:	false,
	summaryAd			:	" using [[WP:TWINKLE|TW]]",
	deletionSummaryAd		:	" using [[WP:TWINKLE|TW]]",
	protectionSummaryAd		:	" using [[WP:TWINKLE|TW]]",
	watchSpeedyPages		:	[ 'g3', 'g5', 'g10', 'g11', 'g12' ],
	openUserTalkPageOnSpeedyDelete	:	[ 'g1', 'g2', 'g10', 'g11', 'g12', 'a1', 'a7', 'i3', 'i4', 'i5', 'i6', 'i7', 'u3', 't1' ],
	watchRevertedPages		:	[ 'agf', 'norm', 'vand', 'torev' ],
	markRevertedPagesAsMinor	:	[ 'agf', 'norm', 'vand', 'torev' ],
	deleteTalkPageOnDelete		:	false,
 	markWarningsAsMinor 	 	: 	true,
 	markAIVReportAsMinor  		: 	true,
	markSpeedyPagesAsMinor		:	true,
	confirmUsernameToAIV		:	true
};

on your userpage and delete the content in watchrevertedpages. --KZ ^{Talk • Vandal • Contrib} 05:44, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Not just "delete", but replace it with an empty array:

	watchRevertedPages		:	[ ],

_→AzaToth 06:08, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks all; it's much better now. -- Cielomobile ^{talk / contribs} 07:31, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Adding "1=" to username in vandalism reports

Please see Krellis's suggestion in Wikipedia talk:Administrator intervention against vandalism#Adding .221.3D.22 to username in vandal.2Fuserlinks templates, about updating Twinkle. Thanks! -- Ben ^TALK/_HIST 10:18, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

I have already done that, though I'm only doing it if the username has a = in it. _→AzaToth 14:37, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

March 2007

Hello, AzaToth! Thank you for reverting vandalism to Wikipedia, as you did in Life. After you revert, I would recommend also warning the users whose edits you revert on their talk pages with an appropriate template or custom message. This will serve to direct new users towards the sandbox, educate them about Wikipedia, and a stern warning to a vandal may prevent him or her from vandalizing again. Thanks! zero » 00:21, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes? _→AzaToth 00:27, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Hello, AzaToth, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for inventing conditional templates and providing the most advanced anti-vandal script yet. After you do so, I would recommend also warning everyone you know that you are imminently about to become an administrator and they should watch their backs, with an appropriate template or custom message. This will serve to get you respect and have people on your side when you get involved in drama, and a stern warning to a user may prevent him or her from blocking you during a wheel war. Thanks! – Qxz 00:35, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Hopefully straightforward...

Hi Carl,

User:David Kernow/Test page#Infobox Country or territory

(which uses User:David Kernow/Test template)

I'm hoping this is something straightforward (i.e. something obvious I'm overlooking), but I don't seem able to set the width of the first column in this infobox (the column carrying the hyphens) so that it's any narrower than at present. Your advice much appreciated. Thanks, David Kernow (talk) 17:13, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Sadly I'm not 100% what you mean :/ _→AzaToth 18:22, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes... it was a bit cryptic; apologies!  If you scan through User:David Kernow/Test template's code, you'll see a number of <td>&nbsp;-&nbsp;</td> entries; these create the hyphens at the starts of lines in the infobox (e.g. in the Government, Area, Population etc sections; see the examples at User:David Kernow/Test page#Infobox Country or territory). I haven't worked out how to reduce the gap between each hyphen and the text following it, i.e. to reduce the width of the column in which these hyphens are placed. Since there's nothing wider than  -  in this column, I'd hoped this would become the width of the column – but instead it looks about twice as wide. I've tried specifying a width (<td width="...">) in px, ex and %, but nothing seems to change. Is there something I'm overlooking...?  Yours, David (talk) 19:03, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

The question I ask you is if there need to be an column for the hyphens? why not just put them in the same td as the title? _→AzaToth 19:21, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

To control wraparound; cf, for example, the entries in the Establishment section of the test Iran infobox... I think, though, I've realized the cause: the padding: 0.4em 0.6em 0.4em 0.6em; entry for cells in the "infobox geography" style here; do you agree...?  David (talk) 21:23, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

...Yes, I think this is the reason. Although the test infoboxes at User:David Kernow/Test page#Infobox Country or territory are now improved, I note there's still a gap appearing at User:David Kernow/Test template. Hopefully I'm still not overlooking something. Yours, David (talk) 21:37, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

IRC cloak request

I am AzaTht on freenode and I would like the cloak wikipedia/AzaToth. Thanks. _→AzaToth 23:07, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Twinkle malfunction report

This TWINKLE edit correctly identified the preceding edit as vandalism, but instead of simply reverting, it went back to a much older version, re-introducing the typo "Americal" for instance. I reverted both the vandalism and the malfunctioning TWINKLE reversion. Art LaPella 00:40, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Keep up the good work!

I see you've made a good start as an admin with 202.182.131.21; keep it up! And congratulations on your RfA, of course. -- Cielomobile ^{talk / contribs} 01:49, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Early RfA congratulations

Just two hours until your RfA has successfully closed. Gratz on WP:100. =) I wish you best of luck as an admin, and if you ever need any help, you know where to reach me. :-P Nishkid64 20:02, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Just a couple minutes until the official time ends, so let me be the second with the early congratulations! —Doug Bell ^talk 21:42, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

And if you'll allow me, I'll be the first with on time congratulations. :) Use the new tools for good, not evil, and spend some time on the reading list. The community has placed their confidence in you and I'm sure you'll do well. Don't hesitate to ask if you're unsure. Have fun and again, congrats. - Taxman ^Talk 21:51, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Way to go! I would have supported you, but I did not know you were running. Of course if you told me people would accuse you of canvasing hehe. Drop by my talk page or e-mail me if you need any advice. ^High_InBC^{(Need help? Ask me)} 22:01, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Yup, that went very well. Good luck with your new tools, and as per Nishkid64, Taxman and HighInBC, if you ever need some help, don't hesitate to ask :) Majorly _{(o rly?)} 22:03, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

You've done well; I'm surprised you were an admin already. I'm glad I supported you. Good luck. :) Acalamari 22:09, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Congrats Aza!! :) - Denny 22:10, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations on your succesful WP:100 RfA, AzaToth! Happy mopping! - Anas ^talk? 22:14, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Congratulations. Well deserved. John Reaves (talk) 22:16, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Thank you all for your confidence, I'll try not to disappoint yee. _→AzaToth 22:35, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Belated congrats you deserve it. Now wipe that grin off yer face and get mopping. ^Khukri 14:37, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

Blanking

Has been reverted. Cheers, -- Darkest Hour 21:40, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

RfA and TWINKLE

First off, belated congrats to your successful RfA. And I wanted to thank you for TWINKLE, after some unjustified early scepticism (seems like everyone is using it), I finally installed it thanks to Will. —KNcyu38 (talk • contribs) 00:45, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

One minor concern, though. Since I activated Twinkle, internal links are never updated. They don't get violet upon klick, and links to newly created talk page stay red. —KNcyu38 (talk • contribs) 09:44, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

That's strange, perhaps it's just a caching problem, twinkle shouldn't interfere with the history. _→AzaToth 16:36, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Your js

What does your js do as used here? CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 03:10, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Never mind. I found the information at Wikipedia:WikiProject User scripts/Scripts/Twinkle. Thanks. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 03:12, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

TW

Just a quick one to ask whether you have removed the function which opens an editor's user page in a new window after reverting vandalism or not- i'm having problems with this and rather than sit and tear apart my browser i thought it'd be sensible to check with you first. Cheers, Jonomacdrones _(talk) 13:20, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

I have not removed that functionallity. Check if you have popup blocking blocking the new window. _→AzaToth 16:35, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

oddly enough its working now, i can't even explain it since my popup blocker wasn't on (unless it turned itself on then off). ah well, thanks anyway mate. Cheers, Jonomacdrones _(talk) 18:14, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Ooh, pretty coloured padlocks

Green = semiprotect, pink = move protect, brown = full protect amirite? I'm just glad to see {{pp-semi-template}} in there, there's a gap in the current scheme and templates have to use {{sprotected}} or {{sprotected2}}, which is less than satisfactory. One suggestion, use a <span class="plainlinks"> for the protection log link, it links to an internal page after all, and it looks nicer that way. Thanks – Qxz 13:52, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

twinklewarn.js

Could you please fix twinkle's warnings and add the following sentence so that it displays the reverted link (i.e. A link to the edit I have reverted can be found here. If you believe this edit should not have been reverted, please contact me.) — zero » 22:32, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Ads

If you feel like doing anything with the images, fine. I've left the template in place (at {{qxz-ads}}) for now, though I've TfD'd it. I've had enough of this place. Thanks for your nitpicky little comments early on. You really helped introduce me to the sort of place this really is. May new, energetic users continue to be put off by them for many years – Qxz 09:44, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Aww....

I tried using TWINKLE on a Windows 2000 with IE 6 installed, and, it doesn't work. The links, whenever I click them, don't do anything. Oh well. Just thought I'd tell you it doesn't work on IE probably. ДҖ--Huanghe63^talk 01:46, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

OK

Twinkle seems fine in Safari browser on an Imac so far - just in case no one has told you yet :) SatuSuro 02:56, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

E104421

Hi, I just saw your comment and unblock decline here: [2]. I think this was a misunderstanding on your part, though understandable for somebody not acquainted with the case. E is not a shared account, I can personally vouch for that. With "we", E was apparently referring to himself and his opponent, Tajik (talk · contribs), with whom he's been on a very long conflict and who was blocked together with him. - I'm not necessarily recommending to lift the block, just thought I'd correct this misunderstanding. Thanks, --Fut.Perf. ☼ 13:38, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Aha, ok my misunderstanding then. _→AzaToth 13:39, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Template:Wikify

No offense but I don't like your image any better then the previous image. You may notice on the talk page that some one suggested changing to "WIKI" and someone else came along and changed it. Two or three users have since posted challenges to that change that have gone un-responded to. If you would kindly change it back to no image (revert to 22:28, 4 March 2007[3] ), or at the very least to Image:Information icon.svg that would be wonderful. Jeepday 13:48, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

reverted to iconless version. _→AzaToth 13:49, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks much better :) I will make a note on the talk page. Jeepday 13:54, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Easter protection

Easter is on Sunday, April 8; perhaps you shorten the semi-protection of the article so that it expires around April 13. -- tariqabjotu 14:56, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Heather Wilson

I think you can unprotect the page. The dissenting "users" have been blocked as a sock puppets. Arbustoo 01:45, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

You can make a request for unprotection at WP:RFPP. RJASE1 ^Talk 02:24, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Need your help

Hi there! I'm from Wikipedia:WikiProject Dinosaurs & we would like to get an ad on the Qxz-ads banner thingy. However, the user Qxz has left Wikipedia. Your name was on the template page also, so I thoguht coming here to ask you would be a good idea. So, 1) Can we please have an ad? 2) How might we go about getting an ad on the banner? & 3) Anything else important I should know about? Thanks, Spawn Man 07:26, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Hello? You have replied to everyone else, but not to me... If you can't help that's fine, but would you be able to direct me to someone who could? Thanks... Spawn Man 04:08, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

As the template isn't protect any more, you could your self add your own if you want, I'm not the best graphical designer, but if you need help creating one, I might be able to help. The template is Template:Qxz-ads _→AzaToth 13:02, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Ads

Just wondering if you would be taking over Qxz's ads, now that he/she left. Also, congrats on your RfA. · AO ^Talk 11:30, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Ditto, and also, congrats. RyGuy 12:38, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Reverting with Twinkle troubles.

Error: TypeError: Status.status is not a function

Everytime I try to revert, I get that error. Is this common/uncommon? Is there any way to fix this, also?

(Still new to wikipedia)Trident 13:36, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

It seems that you have failed to load morebits.js, try to clear your browser cache. _→AzaToth 13:38, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Buses

Not sure its kind to tell someone who deleted over 300 bus images by hand that you had a script all ready to do them... ;-) WjBscribe 16:02, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

LOL :-). Thanks... Think I'm going to have to learn a bit of programming.... WjBscribe 16:31, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

RE:{{db-ad}}

Thank you for the information. What do you mean by tapk? DTD_(speak)

Oh, a typo, I meant talk page. _→AzaToth 15:38, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Oh, dear, sorry. No one's every mentioned it before...DTD_(speak)

Better? DTD_(speak)

Template:Qxz-ads

Are you now taking care of this project?-- _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk}  03:11, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

• Oh, great and glorious one. I was thinking that it might do the various religion projects some good if maybe there were a line added to the template page for the various religion projects, maybe particularly the Saints project (which I'm on), and the newer Calvinism and Lutheranism projects as well. If you would know of any way to add a few "lines" to the page for these groups, or maybe for the newer projects in general, I think we would all be very grateful for your profound magnaminousness and generosity. And, yes, I really do talk this way, particularly when I'm trying to flatter people to get them to do something I want. :) John Carter 16:57, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Protection of Anchor

Thanks for protecting Anchor after my report of it. I have also reported the alleged vandal to 3RR notices, but the upshot is nothing will be done now that the page is protected. Fine by me if it solves the issue with this particular article, but the user who was doing the constant deletion of material (Russeasby) managed to get the last edit before the page was protected. I wonder if you might take a look and undo that revert. Badmonkey 14:40, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Attribution/Poll

Aza, please unprotect this. I'm going to MfD it. - Denny 15:52, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Unprotect Rudy Giuliani

Hello. Rather than change the protection kind on Rudy Giuliani, as you just did, why not unprotect it? There is agreement on the talk page about how to go forward, and the most contentious editor seems to have been blocked, per User talk:CrystalizedAngels. Wasted Time R 15:55, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

It was mearly an update of protection template, to a new collection. I have unprotected it. _→AzaToth 16:32, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Re:

Thank you. I appriciate that. Tājik 16:48, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Gene Baur

Thanks for changing the tag; it made it pop on my watchlist. I completely forgot to unprotect this when the checkuser case that prompted this protection closed...--Isotope23 17:46, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

No problem. _→AzaToth 18:46, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Tito Ortiz

Hi, I'm a relative newbie when it comes to the issues with page protection etc. I'm wondering, what is the purpose of the full protection on the Tito Ortiz article? I've seen articles before under heavier vandalism frequency than this article, and the route has been to only semi-protect the page. Is it because of the sock-puppet? Are there not user blocks that could solve that?Sancho (talk) 17:53, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

It's a sockpuppet problem, in this case User:Verdict _→AzaToth 17:57, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

So, then is the page just protected until we track down all of the sock puppets of that user? Sancho (talk) 18:45, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Possibly, or when he just get tired. _→AzaToth 18:46, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

That's unfortunate... I'm surprised there isn't a way to just ban the IP regardless of the user name that logs in from that IP. Do you know why that wouldn't work? Sancho (talk) 19:49, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

SpongeBob SquarePants

Hello, just wondering why you changed the temple. Responde to my talk page. TheBlazikenMaster 19:37, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Further responde on my talk page. TheBlazikenMaster 20:00, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Reza Shah article

Please check the addition I made to the Reza Shah article's discussion page. The troll User:Artaxerex that was attacking the editors and vandalizing related articles has been confirmed as a "puppetmaster" who's sockpuppets regularly vandalized and instigated Personal Attacks against all editors. [[4]]

I believe the article can and should be safely unlocked now so that vandalism can be reverted by the editors. Mehrshad123 20:04, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

{{protected}} and {{pp-dispute}}

RΞDVΞRS ✖ ЯΞVΞЯSΞ awards this Barnstar to AzaToth for patient explaining of obvious things to someone who should know better. Not that I mean me or anything *coughs*.

Hi Aza! I'm notoriously slow on following updates and changes in policy etc, so forgive the ignorance of the following: what's the difference between {{protected}} and {{pp-dispute}}?

Sorry if it's obvious or something an admin really should know. The fact is, I live most of my life in a haze of not-quite-understanding-what's-going-on and sometimes this overlaps into Wikipedia more than it should :o) RΞDVΞRS ✖ ЯΞVΞЯSΞ 20:31, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

{{protected}} has always been only for disputes, not any other sort of protection, as of the overhaul of the protection template system, it looked better to call the dispute template for dispute, and to have a generic template called pp-protected. see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:VPR#New_protection_templates.2C_take_2 _→AzaToth 20:34, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Cool. Thanks for the links, which (belatedly) I will now read :o) Although, TBH, I stumbled upon this article and its weird edits and don't quite know if it's vandalism, dispute or just lunacy. Such a terribly fine line... Thanks again. RΞDVΞRS ✖ ЯΞVΞЯSΞ 20:58, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

If non of the pre-made templates works, you can use the generic: {{pp-protected|reason=weird edits and don't quite know if it's vandalism, dispute or just lunacy}} _→AzaToth 21:00, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Even cooler! Saved on my desktop. And I've removed the template, lest people start having kittens over it being here. RΞDVΞRS ✖ ЯΞVΞЯSΞ 21:24, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Templates

Hi Azatoth, I notice you're changing templates. [5] I think it's important not to mess around with these without good reason, because people are very familiar with them; the ones you want instead involved more letters to type; and it's hard to remember templates when they keep being changed, which is a source of some frustration. Can you say what the need for the change is? Cheers, SlimVirgin ^(talk) 22:26, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

There has been a long discussion about the protection templates, so the new templates are the result of the discussion. First the naming scheme was inconsistent, second the style of the templates was inconsistent, third the parameter usage was inconsistent. _→AzaToth 22:33, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

User:Sierrasnowboard

Hi. I left a message for Sierrasnowboard about their username, and they have continued to edit and add to their userpage since. They are obviously representing their own company on WP from what I can see, is this a blatant violation of the username policy? -- Whereizben - Chat with me - My Contributions 22:36, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Tajik

Thank you for unblocking my opponent/friend Tajik. Cheers! E104421 23:19, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Harry Potter and the deathly Hallows

Hi. I noticed that you had semi protected this article, although there is no mention on the page that it is protected. I only discovered by accident, and was rather surprised. I'm not surprised that people want to add information to the page, because there has just been a new publicity release about the book. I am a little puzzled why this merits protection. The article has recently been fully protected fo a month or two supposedly because of a dispute over the 'meaning of hallows section'. I was rather bemused by this. I do not believe that there would have been outright war on the page had it not been protected at all. It seems far more likely to me that people would have engaged in their three reverts a few times and then settled down as consensus became clear. If a revert war is never allowed to run long enough for a few different people to show where they stand on an issue, then it never will be resolved. In this instance, the article was locked for a month while we argued about it, to no real conclusion, then was unlocked and settled down without the issue having been resolved. Then as a newcomer started another spat, again the issue was never given enough time to resolve itself before the page was locked. This is a high traffic article, with lots of people adding to it, but while their edits may be hasty, it is not clear they are vandalism. As often as not, someone adds something which is already present somewhere else on the page already. It may inconvenience people to keep sorting it out, but surely that is not the point? 88.108.99.56 23:59, 30 March 2007 (UTC) User: Sandpiper, I had to log out to check the page was protected, and now the auto log in is screwed.

no, my mistake I think. Got the wrong entry, it was not you sir. Though I still havn't figured out what happened. Found one request which seems to have been declined, yet it was protected? Sandpiper 00:35, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Cheri DiNovo and Sylvia Watson protection

Why have you changed the protection level of the Cheri Dinovo page? It is subject to a high rate of vandelism, that's why Bearcat reinstated the protection in the first place. Please revert the protection.Abebenjoe 00:20, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Nothing has changed, it's just a change of template. _→AzaToth 00:21, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

• Excellent. What's new in the template?

Pp-usertalk is too vague

for the purposes of covering unblockabuse and the list of links provided are overkill. Do we really need RFA/RFB? --  Netsnipe  ►  05:28, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

no, we don't need rfa/rfb, they just was already included in the template I used, I'llk see if I can fork it itno something better. _→AzaToth 15:16, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

I also update the template to be less wauge. _→AzaToth 15:17, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

The Freecycle Network change to pp-dispute

Heya Azatoth. Why the protection change on The Freecycle Network page? I read your description above for the protection differences but in this case there still remains an unresolved AMA and ongoing unresolved dispute. I'm planning on following up on both shortly. Dharmaburning 08:17, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

The semantics between pp-dispute and protected is none. _→AzaToth 12:34, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the response though it's troubling. Given your description above, that pp-dispute is used for "reason=weird edits and don't quite know if it's vandalism, dispute or just lunacy," I don't understand how this is an argument of semantics. Based on your own description the two usages have vastly different applications. Your response here begs the question, back to my original question, if there's no difference between the two applications, why then did you make this change to the page? I don't believe you make random changes for no particular reason, so I'm curious what's up. Thanks in advance. Dharmaburning 22:18, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Re: Sprotection of April Fools Day

Heeeelo. Don't mean to patronise, but the protection policy says that sprotection should not be used pre-emptively, like you did on April Fools Day. I was wondering if you'd consider unprotecting it? You never know, people might not vandalise it. --Deskana (ya rly) 15:01, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Unprotecting it just so someone can reprotect it tomorrow morning seems a bit pointless, especially as it was already getting vandalism. – Steel 15:11, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

There was already major vandalism, and I assumed it would rize to next level coming day. _→AzaToth 15:15, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

My fault for just reading your explanation rather than looking at the page, I guess. Apologies. --Deskana (ya rly) 15:19, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Your edits to Template:Usercheck

The point of the "graylinks" in {{usercheck}} was that, even if the subpages titled with that username do not exist, there may be a mention or #anchor of that username on the main topic page, for instance:

• If there is no WP:RFARB/John Doe, that may only mean the case hasn't been accepted for arbitration yet; the case may be on the main topic page, as WP:RFARB#John Doe, or even possibly under a heading with several names or an article name. The "graylink" looks for WP:RFARB#John Doe, and otherwise leaves you at WP:RFARB to do a text search.

• If there is no WP:RFCU/John Doe or WP:SSP/John Doe, that means he hasn't been reported as a "puppetmaster"... but maybe he's been reported as one of the "sockpuppets". The graylink takes you to the main topic page so you can text-search.

• If the user hasn't been reported/nominated at all, you may want to report/nominate him yourself. The "graylinks" help you do so.

I have been using {{usercheck}} not only to help discuss proposed community bans, but also to research existing community bans that had been logged at WP:BANNED without links to the relevant discussions.

Your changes have disabled parts of {{usercheck}} that I was using.

If you want a template with "disappearing" links, may I suggest {{vandal-m}}, which already has them? That way you can have what you apparently want, without destroying the research tool I was using.

Making {{usercheck}} redundant to {{vandal-m}} only makes it a good candidate for TfD. Why have two templates that do the same thing?

Oh, and "count" was next to "contribs" because they are two ways of looking at the same thing: the user's contributions history. They were grouped by topic, not by the server on which they were located.

I would like to be able to continue cleanup on WP:BANNED. May I have back the research tool I was using to do that job? Please? I would really appreciate that. Thank you. -- Ben ^TALK/_HIST 17:43, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Oh, I didn't know about that template, it was for {{pp-usertalk}}, I'll just revert it then, and use the other template, thanks for pointing it out. _→AzaToth 17:47, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

My Userpage

I'm very glad I didn't have any drink in my mouth at the time...I definitely got a good chuckle out of that. And to think, I didn't go because of my watchlist, I just happened to click on my username and noticed the great big pink padlock. It's gonna stay there for the time being. If you can think up a good caption, by all means add it. ^demon^{[omg plz]} 20:40, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Hehe, done. _→AzaToth 20:59, 31 March 2007 (UTC)