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Guaranteed relief[edit]

Some tea for you...


...and a little something to go with it.

INeverCry 03:29, 19 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Good to hear from you. I only take pain pills or muscle-relaxers rarely, and I don't care much for pills that alter the mind either. Lifestyle changes would do me good as well. The Tom Moore gif is amusing. I hope to be able to do that and more sooner or later. It's just a matter of studying Gimp and practicing. The Bodlian stamps their books right on the title page, something I don't like about most libraries. Why not just stamp the end papers, the half tps... Of course the lazy and careless librarians usually stamp right over text too... (just a personal gripe). I'm sure your new article will be impressive. You've put together a damned good bunch as it is, especially Sigurd, the feather in your cap. I sometimes sort and tag "newly created articles", and the general quality can basically be labeled as "shite", so even stubs from you will rise far above most. (I'm not sure that sounds like quite the compliment I meant it to be). ;) INeverCry 04:30, 20 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ahhhhhhh! Those blasted Bodlian buggers!
You should see me when I go to used bookstores. The slightest sign of underlining or notes in a book I want almost gives me fits!
I just finished off another collab with Evvy: Aleksey Pisemsky, a gentleman as neurotic as myself more or less. I'm also helping to copy-edit Fyodor Dostoyevsky, whose neuroticallity needs no introduction I'm sure. Other big aricles are in the works... big big big. INeverCry 19:53, 20 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Beves[edit]

I would suggest using Beves of Hamtoun (poem) or such like, and afterwards adding {{For|the Middle English romance|Beves of Hamtoun (poem)}} to the Bevis of Hampton page. This way the redirect would basically point to both articles. INeverCry 20:30, 23 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]


It's too bad you're not a neighbor of mine - I could've brought you atleast a hundred or so imperfect volumes over the past 10 or 15 years that I ended up ripping apart in anger and throwing in the trash or donating to one of our local libraries or charities.

As for the "going big", my current projects are cleanups of Nikolai Uspensky and Mikhail Saltykov-Shchedrin, and a possible continuance of expanding Ivan Goncharov. Konstantin Balmont and a few others are waiting down the road. There are two other big articles that my Russian friend did a couple years ago, Zinaida Gippius and Dmitry Merezhkovsky, which I can't bring myself to work on, as the pair were evangelicals, and I don't have the patience for religious things anymore. INeverCry 20:45, 23 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Never again[edit]

Wow. I've done a few minor copy-edits. I see a few refs that I'll need to convert to cite temps, and some more copy-edits are probably needed, but overall the article looks to be ready for a GAN. Rest up for that! I might look into a hook for a dyk too. INeverCry 22:46, 23 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I found a great title page image for the article. After looking at the whole dyk process, I think I'll pass on that idea. INeverCry 23:16, 23 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Once the article is ready, and its author, we can nominate it. I think it's more than worthy. INeverCry 20:58, 24 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I'm ready if you are. GA indicates a quality article, rather than a perfect one, and yours is obviously high quality. It's much more polished than Sigurd was at the start. I don't mind the GAN process when I have someone to work with. I was alone out in the desert when I was dealing with George Crabbe (to be returned to btw), and with the Russian articles (I've listed these at the top of my user page with Russian blue stars indicating unofficial GA status ;), and that turned me off of GA a bit, but Sigurd was great in the end. I don't forsee having to give it up, but a fail outcome wouldn't be the end of the world either. You've seen how slow and leisurely the process is, so I say let's have a crack at it. INeverCry 21:42, 24 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
No hurry at all. My years of being in a rush have long passed, so take your time, and let me know when you're ready. We're having our usual weird weather where I'm at. On Wednesday I was sitting out in the sun with 85 degree heat, and today it's in the high 40s! I live in desert country, though. I wish your health issue was as easily remedied as mine was; now that I lean back and type with the keyboard on my lap, my neck is ok. I hope you feel better soon. INeverCry 19:18, 25 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I understand completely. My copy-edits, btw, mainly consisted in removing the extra spaces left by whatever word-processor you originally wrote the article with. I hope your editing abilities head uphill soon, as the literary side of wp is certainly in need of them. I like having you around too. ;) INeverCry 19:14, 27 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Goodbye[edit]

It was good to hear from you, and to see that your still able to do some writing. Personally, I've had enough of wikipedia. Take care. INeverCry 19:22, 11 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'm still fighting my disability, but that's only a small part of why I don't want to be here. My biggest problem is the wikimedia foundation's overall policy regarding adult/pornagraphic images. Over the past 6 months I've seen a huge increase in uploading of adult images on commons, with no way of protecting young people from stumbling on them there or in articles here. This is what many of these uploaders really want. It's a kind of virtual flashing for them. Wales and his people need to implement a safe-search function just like google, flickr and the rest. He said he would a year ago, but nothing has been done. Other than that, I'm tired of arguing with highschool and college kids who're young enough to be my children, and having them in charge as admins. I think the way all of wikipedia is run is blatantly subjective and haphazard. Of the 4 million "articles" here, atleast 3 million are garbage start and stubs. I've assessed 8000+ articles, and I've found very few that impress me at all. The Russian part of wikipedia is focused primarily on military and history, with no interest at all for most writers or artists. In all of poetry, we have less than 100 GA or FA articles. I'd rather read and study. I feel strongly that wikipedia will be a permanent mess. If you don't believe in something, there's no point in continuing. I enjoyed working with you very much, but there aren't enough people like you and my Russian friend to keep me going. 71.94.13.244 (talk) 23:03, 12 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Drama alert!! ;) INeverCry 03:57, 16 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

3 Clerks[edit]

That was a nice surprise! You're also helping me to put off my ebay listings, which I'm always glad to have an excuse for. I was supposed to do them Friday... Your articles are way too good to be defaced by stub tags, for future reference. :) That was an article I thought me or Ammodramus would end up doing. Ammo is the guy who was responsible for my other successfully nominated GA for The Vicar of Bullhampton. I'm thinking of doing one for La Vendee in the distant future, if you or someone else doesn't beat me to it. Unless you're going to put up another article in the next few minutes, though, I guess I'll have to get to work on my listings. Work is the worst of 4-letter words to me, btw. INeverCry 21:42, 18 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

PS - This talk page of yours is getting a bit "loose and baggy" (quoting from Henry James's opinion of War and Peace). Let me know if you want me to do some archiving for you. INeverCry 21:45, 18 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
What I've had of kindle hasn't impressed me much. I've had quite a few kindle books that had formatting issues - too big seperations between paragraphs, etc. The Oxford World's Classics pdfs are much higher quality, and of course it's always nice to have authoritative annotated texts w/ expert intros. I've got some more you'll like. I love having a chance to share these with someone who appreciates them. I supply my Russian friend with pdfs as well. I just sent him a nice new English slang dictionary, and one of our "culture shock" books for English-speaking tourists considering a trip to Russia. ;)
As for The 3 Clerks, I have the Oxford World Classics ed, so when I get around to reading it I'll be able to add some stuff to the article. Btw, I'm glad to see you wiped away all my drivel. ;) INeverCry 20:24, 19 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
You're very much welcome, dear comrade Antiquary! Luckily, these are by far my smallest pdfs. I have a few more I think you'll like. Acquiring new books is as close as I get to having a "religious experience". ;) That's what keeps me on ebay: more book money! The great Erasmus said in a letter that whenever he was finished buying books he would use what was left to buy food. I'm not a big eater as it is, but if it comes to buying new clothes or something for my house, or going book shopping, my choice isn't often in doubt. :) INeverCry 18:42, 20 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Email (s)[edit]

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  • That's it for now. I sent a medieval English lit CC in #18. I wish I could send you some extra dl speed... INeverCry 21:01, 20 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for George Ellis (poet)[edit]

Graeme Bartlett (talk) 08:03, 21 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Congratulations! I've added this to the DYK list at WikiProject Poetry. INeverCry 19:06, 21 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Scott UB[edit]

This user enjoys the works of
Sir Walter Scott




  • My first attempt at a userbox. I was going for a Scottish flag theme. Can you take a look at this and see if there's anything you would do to improve it? Let me know what you think of it. INeverCry 18:53, 22 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
    • I've added it to the lit userbox gallery. INeverCry 00:28, 23 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
      • I've started to prefer Oxfords lately too, though my main reason is the cruddy recycled paper Penguin is using now. I don't mind the intros too much, I'm more concerned with having the best text possible. I once read Trollope's Dr. Thorne in the little Nonsuch Classics edition, (I don't remember how i even got hold of it), but the text had a huge number of errors in syntax and punctuation.

It's nice to have a fellow book-lover for those pdfs. You may very well wake up to more of them in the near future. ;)

I switched out the pic in the Scott UB. Your comment about it being more accessible is very helpful, as I was thinking the same thing about the Bronte, Eliot, and Dickens UBs being a bit hard on the eyes. I think I may do more, for Gaskell, Collins, Trollope, Hardy, Byron, Shelley, Wordsworth, Burns, and Keats. Some Russian ones may be in order as well, atleast for Pushkin, Gogol, Tolstoy, Dostoyevsky, and Turgenev. I'll have to make some reader categories to go with them at some point.

You're right about Waverly. I stopped it a little past half-way. I loved the writing, the story, characters, etc, but I just don't have the needed knowledge of Scottish history yet. I kept looking up details about the Jacobites, the Old Pretender, etc, and it took away from my enjoyment. So I decided it would be better to study Scottish history a bit, and then return to Scott prepared. INeverCry 18:03, 23 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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  • This last email was written on 3 hours sleep, so it might be somewhat over-cooked. The barnstar bit and the non-answered questions bit are true enough. The Beves suggestion is solid too, but a delay of months would be fine by me, as long as it's not never. I feel that if an article is GA quality, then we owe it to wp readers to eventually give it its due, or something to that effect. It's like reviewing a restaurant: if you don't give it a rating, some folks might pass on eating there without knowing what they're missing. I'm still sleep-deprived, as you can see... ;) INeverCry 00:48, 2 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I've uploaded the 2008 book cover to use in both articles. This is the first I've ever heard of either work, so the Scotts and Lockharts certainly kept their secrets well. The price is ridiculous, which is pretty common for the EU press editions. These are for schools and scholars... and richies. ;) Perhaps, at some point, you could become the first to write a wp article on one of his plays. INeverCry 18:39, 15 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'll gladly take your word for it on Scott's plays. I had been thinking of doing a small page on MacDuff's Cross because of the interesting subject and undaunting length. I've only read two and a half plays in my life though: Othello in a modern English version (long ago), The Importance of Being Earnest (the name Earnest is all I remember of that), and a cut-down translation of one of Ostrovsky's plays. I also read a one-act play by Ivan Gorbunov (I may be the only living reader of Gorbunov on the planet - he's terrible btw). ;) INeverCry 08:39, 16 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Always nice to see a new Antiquarian offering. I added the 1st ed title page (of course), and cleaned up the refs to snazzy sfn style. Another editor added a great painting by Delaquaw. ;) Btw, I took down my illness tag here and replaced it with a pano of what my neck of the woods looks like (at the very start of wonderful Spring!!). I don't feel great or anything, I just got sick and tired of the sick and tired tag. ;) We're up around the high 90s (F) at the moment. :( If it were up to me, we'd have six months of spring, 3 months of Fall, and 3 months of Winter. INeverCry 20:03, 22 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The link I gave in those Marchand refs etc is to the overall Google Books preview, where an interested reader (or nit-picker) can scroll down to the pages you cite and look at the notes at the bottom of the pages. Also, the ref cites Marchand or Quennell as editors and not Byron himself, which I figure (read "hope") would be understood, as letter commentary and annotation are so common. In any event, I don't think a "casual" reader would take the time to check refs or tag articles with OR tags. ;) I think if you had seen all the literary articles I've assessed for the various projects, you'd get a much much higher opinion of your own efforts, which are easily in the very highest range in regard to quality. Well-written is well-written whatever the length.
Anyways, I removed that illness tag because, with all the edits I've done lately, my health obviously hasn't limited my wikipedia time. ;) I do have a damned toothache though. :(
The area in that pic looks quite scorched and dusty right now, complete with shimmering hot air. Southern Nv is much worse though, much hotter and barren-looking, and much more deserty, all year-around. I've been all over the state, but our Northern part is the best place to live. INeverCry 18:56, 23 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I forgot to show you this little rework I did the other day. This is an author I've been interested in for a while, but I just picked up a copy of the new Oxford edition of A Child of the Jago. INeverCry 00:30, 24 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'd love to get hold of that Newens bio. Unfortunately, Google Books doesn't give a preview, and Amazon doesn't even have any copies for sale. INeverCry 00:35, 24 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The Hewitt books are available on archive.org, along with most of the rest of his work in the Jago vein. The article is pretty much sufficient now, and will have to do for the time being. Once I read Jago, I'll expand the stub on it. Other than that, I'm going to go back to the free pd bios from archive.org for some more expansions like Crabbe and Hogg. I've also began putting {{lang-en|}} tags and English names in American people articles on Russian.wiki. I just wonder how long it will take someone over there to give me autoeditor rights. For now, I'm racking up pending changes at a healthy pace. ;) My editing time will definitely be cut down throughout the Olympics though; especially tennis, where my boy Djokovic no longer has Rafa to worry about, though Roger wants that Gold medal badly too. Rafa dropping out should atleast give Murray a shot at a silver or bronze. Our medal contenders, of course, are Serena and the Bryan Bros. Anyways, about your wrist, my Dad has a similiar issue; he was given a brace to wear, and that's helped him quite a bit. He's almost 80, and has never used a computer in his life, so I don't know if that would be helpful for you. My Dad always says he hates computers and all post-1980s technology, but this doesn't quite hold up when he sees the money I've made for him selling his old stuff on ebay. ;) Take care. INeverCry 20:47, 24 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

PB[edit]

I've responded on my talkpage. INeverCry 23:00, 31 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It took me a whole day to notice this one; I must be slipping. I hope you don't mind the headers I added. I also found a facsimile pic of the first page of the original manuscript. INeverCry 20:19, 8 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I noticed this image as well: File:Lydgate-siege-troy-wheel-fortune-detail.jpg. I wonder if it can be used in the Lydgate main article, Troy Book, etc? INeverCry 20:23, 8 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Admin?[edit]

Have a look: Commons:Administrators/Requests. We'll see how it goes. Wish me luck. ;) INeverCry 02:05, 10 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Popups[edit]

I don't know if you use the popups gadget, but it's given me a bit of a laugh. When I scroll over your username the little wappen owl shows up as your icon, but when I scroll over my own username my icon is the symbol. My first thought was "how fitting". INeverCry 03:36, 13 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

New article[edit]

My first in quite a while: Mark Kharitonov; I've nominated him for DYK as well. I also decided to go for GA with George Crabbe once and for all, after creating seperate poetry and criticism sections. INeverCry 22:16, 14 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Userbox display[edit]

I hope you don't mind my little fixes to your userbox display. I spent a few hours adjusting mine today, and since I use the same tables as you, I though I'd make sure everything was even for you too. I'm obsessive-compulsive - I'm not as extreme as this guy, but I do arrange everything I own with mathematical precision. Let me know if you'd rather I kept my grubby paws off of your userpage. ;) I had to get rid of all the animations I had in my tables here and on Commons. They were just to busy, and were starting to bother me. My eyes are a bit bleary now... INeverCry 04:12, 22 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A Burns supper for you![edit]

The WikiHaggis
I hereby award you the WikiHaggis! This means you are slightly nutty, sorta spicy, and maybe resemble stuffed pig intestines.

I thought it was sheep guts, but who cares. ;) INeverCry 19:52, 8 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Pass this WikiHaggis on by putting {{subst:WikiHaggis}} on someones talk page!

You got haggis - I get a trophy[edit]

Take a look at this little "award", on the bottom of my Commons talk: here. I got a good laugh out of it, and I think I'll keep it, and maybe even display it. ;) INeverCry 18:32, 13 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The awarder removed it from my tp, but I now have it displayed on my userpage: here 2nd from the bottom of the page. INeverCry 03:04, 14 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

New article[edit]

Here's a little something from a rusty old pen: A Dark Night's Work. The themes/criticism section is a bit sparse. I know and feel these things, but putting them into words has always been a bit distasteful to me. I often disagree with the critics too, making it even more difficult to write these novel articles. INeverCry 19:44, 20 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]