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This discussion involves archiving technical move requests. --George Ho (talk) 10:42, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

  • Looking at the history of Air_Safaris (Defunct) I think that you must have been confused with your last move, because you reverted a quick revet of a move back to its previous stable name.
    I think that the best thing to do is revert your move, close the RM debate and suggest that a new RM is needed to move the page, so that the current confusion at talk:Air Safaris (Defunct) can be ended. -- PBS (talk) 09:07, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

Re User talk:Anthony Appleyard/2012/January-June#Air Safaris (Defunct).

You archive your talk page very quickly! The point I am making is that under RM procedures if a move is made and is then reverted, it is up to the initiator of the first move to put in a request to move the page to his/her preferred name. Your revert of a legitimate revert (made under WP:RM "If the page has recently been moved without discussion, then you may revert the move"), has placed the onus the other way around and it is now up to the person who wanted the status quo to gain a consensus to move it back to the original name. This is a reversal of the usual procedure, and hence my request. -- PBS (talk) 13:23, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

I know that, but I think that the solution that fits the RM process best would be to move it back and then initiate another move request. Failing that then I think you should leave a message on the talk page in the discussion section, that a failure to reach consensus will result in a move back to the original title. If neither of these things are done, then it has given first move advantage the the editor who move the page, something that the rules at WP:RM have been developed to stop. -- PBS (talk) 15:10, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

Protected name-space moves

  • How do we deal with page-move situations such as Qurban Ali(Journlist)Qurban Ali (which is a "protected" name-space)? I suspect this situation may require further admin attention or investigation, but without being able to template the protected name-space, I'm somewhat at a loss with ideas of what to do with it. Bringing it to your attention seems to make the most sense.  -- WikHead (talk) 05:19, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
  • Page Qurban Ali is a deleted article about someone non-notable; someone protected it to prevent re-creation. I have made page Qurban Ali into a disambig page. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:34, 7 July 2012 (UTC)
    • Thank you for looking after this Anthony. I really had no way of knowing whether the new journalist article had anything to do with the A7 issues that led to protection of that name-space, it was however something that was holding up the typo correction in the new page title. I'm 100% satisfied with your solution. Regards,  -- WikHead (talk) 15:22, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

Discussion at Talk:Liquid breathing#Removal of "redundant text" from the Partial liquid ventilation section

You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Liquid breathing#Removal of "redundant text" from the Partial liquid ventilation section. Peaceray (talk) 05:54, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

Suggesting about wikilinking to templates in your Links section

  • I noticed that there are unlinked templates in your Links section. For an example, I think that you can Wikilink to them by using [[Template:uncat|<nowiki>{{uncat}}</nowiki>]] to produce {{uncat}}.
    Peaceray (talk) 21:16, 7 July 2012 (UTC)
  • Thanks; but I put them there for me to copy-and-paste from when needed. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 22:18, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

Page move

  • Hello, I am contacting you regarding an issue I have with an article. Yesterday I (mistakenly) moved "Batllo Majesty" to "Batlló Majestat". Consequently, I tried to move it to "Batlló Majesty", but it didn't work, as the page already existed...
    Could you please move it to "Batlló Majesty" (spelled with an acute accent)? [1] Thanks. – Jɑυмe (xarrades) 17:09, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
  •  Done Anthony Appleyard (talk) 20:29, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

Requested moves help

Hi Anthony Appleyard, I need a bit of help on requested moves, so in seeing that you often help out there I've come to ask you. Anyway, the other day a user e-mailed me asking about a page move, so I passed them on to requested moves. However, when they added their request the bot removed it, and after I had restored the request earlier today the bot removed it again. What's the problem here? Thanks! Acalamari 09:07, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) It can be tough for new users to understand, but they need to start the RM at the talk page in question, by using {{requested move}}, and the bot will list it automatically. Nominations should be added to the RM list manually or they will be removed by the bot. I've started a RM at Talk:Bügsküll. Jenks24 (talk) 09:40, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
Thank you. :) Acalamari 14:54, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

question about merging and merging order

Hi Anthony, thank you for your help with sorting out the Golden set (tennis) page.

Quick question: did you take a look at the discussion on the talk page? I'm asking because I don't really understand the rationale here, as to why the page was merged as opposed to delete+move. It was a new article written from scratch, to which I then added the "see also" section from a deleted version.

And if you reckon it was necessary to do a merge, then I don't understand why you merged Golden set (tennis) into Golden set, instead of merging Golden set into Golden set (tennis) and then moving the article. In my opinion that would have made more sense, being that the only bit taken from a deleted version of Golden set was the see also section, which is smaller than the main part of the new article. Of course I'm aware of my lack of experience here, so I want to understand the rationale. Thanks in advance for taking the time to explain. Azylber (talk) 12:06, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Hi, first of all thank you for your quick reply. I can see that the fact that there was no WP:Parallel histories makes the merging easy. But I still don't understand these 2 things:
1) why is a merge necessary? The old article had been discarded years ago, and the new article was written from scratch, borrowing only the "see also" section from an old revision of the old article before it was discarded.
2) if you still think a merge is necessary, then why merge the old one into the new, as opposed to the other way around? The new one only contains one minor little section from a discarded revision of the old one!!
I hope I've managed to express my point clearly this time. I know this is not very important in the grand scheme of things, so please don't answer if you don't have time. But of course I would appreciate an answer. Thank you very much again! Azylber (talk) 16:31, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
  • The request was rather hard to understand, but it looked like a request to history-merge Golden set (tennis) and Golden set. Which of the two names to keep as the name of the merged page, is another matter :: in this case, the disambigger "{tennis)" was not needed, as no other meanings of "Golden set" were in Wikipedia. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 22:10, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
Sorry, but I'm not talking about the name. But don't worry about it. Azylber (talk) 06:12, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

One Direction's second album

This discussion has been moved to Talk:One Direction's second studio album#Queried move. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 15:42, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

What just happened, exactly?

  • My watchlist, and several article histories are currently a bit of a mess with articles being deleted and created all over the place, and moved to some very strange places. As someone said on my talkpage, the net result is for everything to be exactly the same. May I ask a) why this needed doing? My understanding of the histmerg thing is that it is unnecessary if the same person wrote the text and added it to an article, and I wrote everything that has been moved around. What was the point? And b) why these articles came to your attention? No problem or anything, I just find it a little odd and probably not necessary. Oh, and I'm sure that the Rae article had an image last time I looked. As it is fair use, it really should have been put back which I have now done. Cheers. Sarastro1 (talk) 16:21, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
  • Actually, just found a partial answer to b), looking at George Dewhurst, but other questions still stand! Sarastro1 (talk) 16:29, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
  • I found that the edit history of User:Sarastro1/Sandbox4 contained the early parts of the edit histories of several pages; several times, User:Sarastro1/Sandbox4 was cut-and-pasted to some other page and then blanked, and another article on another topic was started in it. I felt it advisable to re-unite all these split edit histories: George Dewhurst (cricketer), Malcolm Jardine, George Headley, Bernard Bosanquet (cricketer), Ernest Rae. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 18:20, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

ILO histmerge

  • Hi, Anthony. It looks like you recently did a histmerge of ILO into ILO (disambiguation). May I ask what prompted this? AFAICT, ILO was not a disambiguation page before this; at least, it did not show up on any of the lists maintained by WikiProject Disambiguation. However, it is of course very difficult to sort out what the separate status of the two pages was before they were merged. Also, the merge is technically incorrect because, if there is going to be a disambiguation page at one of these two titles, it ought to be at the base title ILO and the other title ought to be a redirect to it, per WP:PRECISE and WP:INTDABLINK. Any light you can shed on this would be most welcome. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 21:38, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
  • Oh, I think I see. (But tell me if I'm wrong.) It looks like there was a cut-and-paste move on November 27, 2009, immediately followed by redirecting ILO to International Labour Organization. Someone put a {{histmerge}} tag on the disambiguation page last week, and you fixed the cut-and-paste move, but perhaps inadvertently did not restore the previously existing redirect of ILO, which I have now done. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 21:44, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
  • That depends on whether the International Labour Organization is the dominant meaning of the acronym ILO. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 08:30, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Decompression (diving) nomination for A-class

Hi Anthony, I think Decompression (diving) is up to A-class, Please take a look if you have the time and comment on article talk page. Peter (Southwood) (talk): 06:34, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Josh Hall hist merge needed

  • G'day Anthony, I found a bit of a mess at Josh Hall and Josh Hall (footballer). Articles were written at both locations at around the same time, with the IP's version at the unqualified name the best and more compete one, but I don't think a single game Suns player is worth being a primary topic. So could you merge the history from Josh Hall into Josh Hall (footballer) and move the dab page back to the primary topic. Thanks The-Pope (talk) 15:20, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
  •  Done the move, but  Not done the history-merge, as WP:Parallel histories. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 16:33, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

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Discussion at Wikipedia_talk:Naming_conventions_(Vietnamese)#RfC_on_spelling

You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia_talk:Naming_conventions_(Vietnamese)#RfC_on_spelling. KarlB (talk) 13:49, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

  • I have no particular interest in Vietnamese, and I have never been in or near Vietnam. The above message about Vietnamese is signed "[[User:Karl.brown|KarlB]] ([[User talk:Karl.brown|talk]]) 13:49, 22 July 2012 (UTC)", but it was inserted at 13:49, 22 July 2012‎ by User:Obiwankenobi, according to page User talk:Anthony Appleyard's edit history. I have heard of internet links that get a different IPA number every time they are switched on. Or is the user User:118.68.129.247 (and similar) using various internet access points in Ho Chi Minh City; are there internet cafes there? Anthony Appleyard (talk) 22:24, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
It's just a rename; the name was usurped by me (now done), and was just completed recently. That may explain the confusing edit/sig history - sorry about that.--Obi-Wan Kenobi (talk) 03:43, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
Hi Anthony, sorry, my note was too short. The fact that Karl B (who is not from Vietnam) is contacting you must be because somewhere, years back you expressed an opinion in a Vietnamese diacritics RM. Looks like simply he forgot to sign.
No, the issue with Talk:Inter Milan is unrelated to Karl B's message - other than a Vietnam IP made the edit that obscured the previous RM, just before a new RM was launched. On its own it wouldn't be anything - but there are several RMs with these sort of edits immediately prior to a new RM.
  • 8 June 113.161.68.190 (talk · contribs)
    • 14:19, 8 June 2012 (diff | hist) . . (+219)‎ . . Talk:Inter Milan ‎ (Add archiving, 90 days)
    • 06:08, 8 June 2012 (diff | hist) . . (+311)‎ . . Talk:Lady Trieu ‎ (Add archiving)
That is the issue - the RM Wesley Mouse and yourself closed was conducted without being able to see the original RM, which in itself wasn't so bad, but why was it done by an IP? I imagine the registration is just the Vietnam post office. In ictu oculi (talk) 22:56, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
I'm afraid there's another one Talk:Praha_hlavní_nádraží#IP_set_up_of_MiszaBot_Talk.2FRM_Archiving_prior_to_RM but in this case the article wasn't moved. In ictu oculi (talk) 04:15, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
FYI the Inter Milan RM has been included at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Kauffner In ictu oculi (talk) 02:30, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
  • Hi; thanks for addressing my screw-up so quickly! I have a couple of questions though (and I'm not questioning what you've done; I'm just trying to understand because I'm new and don't want to make more mistakes). 1) I do realize to be grammatically correct, the apostrophe should be in the title (which is why I had it there in the first place). But when the association doesn't spell it that way, so we add the apostrophe anyway? I had assumed we wouldn't, because if we did account for bad grammar then, for example, eBay would be EBay in our title. 2) The CAFA page still says it's an orphan page because no other articles link to it. However, that's not the case, there are a few other articles in Wikipedia that have Critics Adult Film Association as a link, but they're still in red. Does it take a while for those links to recognize that a redirect exists? Or is something still wrong? Thanks again...
    Pumik9 (talk) 00:38, 23 July 2012 (UTC)Pumik9
  • These links look OK now. See discussion in Talk:Critics' Adult Film Association#Move?. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:21, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

Why am I not "autoconfirmed"?

Anthony, I have been a Wikipedian for many years and I have had many hundreds (if not thousands) of edits (see my User page). I wanted to edit the Jet engine article ... but was denied access because the article is now semi-protected and I am supposedly not "autoconfirmed". Why am I not autoconfirmed??

By the way, I wanted to edit the "Thrust" subsection of the Jet engine article which is incomprehensible and does not use the same parameter symbols that most of the other WP articles of that genre use. In fact, the symbols used in that subsection differ completely from those used by NASA. For example, that "Thrust" section uses "S" instead of "F" as the symbol for "Force". As another example, it use "c" instead of "ve" as the symbol for the jet exhaust velocity.

Please explain why I am not autoconfirmed and can you get me to be autoconfirmed as soon as possible? Thanks, mbeychok (talk) 21:58, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

The problem seems to have resolved itself. I can now edit that Jet engine article. mbeychok (talk) 02:16, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
  • Just a little curious, how did you come to the conclusion that is was a move? No consensus seemed to have been arrived upon, and only one days discussion? No replies allowed? does not seem to follow good faith in letting the process go through. It also goes against the MOS. I have moved it back, please fix the talk pages that were messed up by your original move. --Education does not equal common sense. 我不在乎 14:03, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
  • This request: "The Key to Time was merged to the story arc article in 2008, it was the spun-off again in 2011 to Doctor Who: The Key to Time. So the previous version of the article should exist in the history of the current version of the article. There is no overlapping edit history, except to retarget the redirect to the recreated article, thus not significant. -- 76.65.131.160 (talk) 03:04, 30 July 2012 (UTC)": was put in Wikipedia:Cut and paste move repair holding pen#New requests, and I obeyed it. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 15:40, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

discuss 4

after you removed my requests, where did you open the discussion? Frietjes (talk) 16:51, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

never mind, I found it at template talk:All-Ireland Winning Team 1958. I was expecting to find a discussion on the actual RM page. Frietjes (talk) 16:53, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
  • Anthony, Hi! Can this very silly edit be reversed: " Hansmccx (talk | contribs) moved page Dutch Golden Age painting to Golden Age of Dutch Painting ‎"
    Thanks! Johnbod (talk) 02:26, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
  •  Done Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:04, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
Many thanks! Johnbod (talk) 13:40, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

AJ Lee / April Jeanette / etc.

There is a circular mess of redirects... where is the actual article? — P.T. Aufrette (talk) 22:30, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

Oh. What a tangled web we weave. Here is the talk page: Talk:April Jeanette. Marcus Qwertyus 01:50, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

I think you must have inadvertently deleted the actual article and its history, perhaps you or some other admin can resurrect it:

21:33, 2 August 2012 Anthony Appleyard (talk | contribs) deleted page April Jeanette (G6: Deleted to make way for move)
21:31, 2 August 2012 Anthony Appleyard (talk | contribs) deleted page April Jeanette (G6: Deleted to make way for move)

P.T. Aufrette (talk) 03:17, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

I have requested it to be undeleted WP:UND but maybe you can do it sooner. If you bring it back maybe you can rename it like requested (see the Talk page). Wrestling0101 (talk) 03:55, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Gears of War: Judgment

  • Someone moved Gears of War: Judgment to a sandbox instead of just making the new article there. I request to merge back the history (same thing with the talk page). SNS (talk) 02:05, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
  •  Done Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:17, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

Usurping

Evening Anthony.

While this may seem moot after your recent history merge at Gears of War: Judgment, I'm interested in your rationale why the usurping of the title was invalid? After considering the following:

All though not much it known about this video game at the current time but we do know that it's supposed to be a new beginning for a spin off series of the original Gears of War series. It also has been leaked that Gears of War 4 is supposed to be linked with the release of Bulletstorm 2.

I determined that the history of the article was manifestly non-encyclopaedic and trivial, specifically unreferenced rumour, and opted to relocate it pending any dispute. Rather than transposing it to a sandbox, an apt location was probably Gears of war: judgment, although I didn't consider that at the time. Since none of the other editors engaged in any substantive attempt to develop the Gears of War: Judgment article, I didn't believe that the usurp was controversial, although perhaps the move to the sandbox was. Anyway, perhaps you could elaborate on my miscomprehension of WP:UPT policy, and the absence of discussion prior to the decision. Thanks, Mephistophelian (talk) 15:31, 6 August 2012 (UTC).

  • There seem to be 2 sorts of this "usurping":-
    1. E.g. Someone wrote an article about a racehorse called Qwerty, and someone else pushes it aside and writes an article with the same name about a pop music band called Qwerty.
    2. Someone writes an article about something, and someone else writes another article, as a new start and not taking text from the old article, with the same name about the same subject.
    Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:37, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

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Prehistoric Portugal

  • Hi. You rejected my request to move my draft for Prehistoric Portugal to the mainspace because "This subject is already covered at length in page Prehistoric Iberia.". There reason I was creating the article was because, if you look at the Prehistoric Iberia, most of it is not about Prehistoric Portugal. Understandably, most of the article is about the territory that is now Spain, since most of the Iberian Peninsula is part of Spain. That means there is very little about the prehistory of waht is now Portugal in that article, and if I were to expand it to give it as much atention as Spain's prehistory it would be undue weight. Olher than that, there are plenty of reliable sources about the prehistory of Portugal to create an article.--Cattus talk 18:21, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
  •  Done moved. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 20:34, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
Thank you.--Cattus talk 21:38, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Possible sneaky vandalism

  • Hi Anthony,
    I have just reverted some rather strange edits by Special:Contributions/Bekomil in diving related articles, where I have a fairly extensive background, but not enough for certainty. They included some unverifiable content and a group of circular links. This person also made some edits in fields in which I have no confidence in identifying fact from nonsense (ROTC), which I have left alone. I would appreciate you taking a look, and letting me know what you think. Thanks, • • • Peter (Southwood) (talk): 19:45, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
  •  Done Anthony Appleyard (talk) 21:25, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

Mini cockup

Unprotection of Carl Linnaeus

Hello, it's been more than one year. Can we try unprotection please?

Thanks 220.246.157.2 (talk) 07:53, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Nomination of Simba (rhinoceros) for deletion

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Hi there AA, AL from Portugal here,

can you tell me why did you have a change of heart in this footballer's article (moving the page then reverting yourself)? Plus, as you removed my request from the proper area, can you tell me please where does that leave us?

Attentively, keep up the good work - --AL (talk) 14:30, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

  • This move is for discussion in Talk:Tiago André Coelho Lopes#Move?. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 15:06, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
  • Yes i had already noticed that. My (other) question is: if no one adds an input there besides me, will it not be moved? Thank you --AL (talk) 16:16, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
  • I thought that it may be controversial. Wait a week to see if anyone states an opinion there. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 16:23, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

Duck eats frog

This makes it clear that we should avoid linking to videos of uncertain copyright status. I think that the video is of dubious value anyway, we have a poor quality clip of an unnamed duck species eating a frog. Coupled with that is unreferenced text which implies that this is standard behaviour for most of the duck species. I'm not going to war on this, if you think the video adds to the article and doesn't infringe our external links policy, just put the link back Jimfbleak - talk to me? 05:37, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

Urgently need your help to move article

Hi Anthony Appleyard, sorry to bother you. I really urgently please need your help. As you are a administrator, I need your help to "Move" the article Tinchy Stryder to the article Kwasi Danquah III for me, so that the article history will be intacted. I have already listed on Wikipedia:Requested moves a long time ago but it has not been processed. MarkMysoe (talk) 09:09, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

MarkMysoe's request was not processed because he entered it directly at Wikipedia:Requested moves/Current discussions and the RMCD bot promptly overwrote it. I've taken care of this and copied the request to talk:Tinchy Stryder#Requested move. Wbm1058 (talk) 13:47, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

Thomas Whitfield disambiguation

  • Hello! This is our first conversation, and I'm asking for an answer, that may sound rude, but please find me highly understanding the Wikimedia community and its guidelines, and cordial with this conversation. I found this redirection WRONG as per my perception. I found several people with the same importance and made a disambiguation page. But thing's reverted.
    I am afraid, I'm asking for an explanation? :)  —Mayeenul Islam (TALK) 11:18, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
  • Page Thomas Whitfield is now the disambig page again. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 16:26, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
Thanks a lot for your kind support, Anthony. —Mayeenul Islam (TALK) 09:06, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

We are having a move situation in this article. We seem to be in full agreement that it should be split but an editor moved it the wrong way. Anyways we will definitely need an an administrator for this article to be moved to part one so I was thinking of notifying you about the situation. Jhenderson 777 17:33, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

Scum Lake listed at Redirects for discussion

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Rabiola - Developments

Hi there AA, AL here,

several other users have weighed in in the article's talkpage, and all the inputs were positive. Do you think you can accommodate in the view of that? Thanks in advance, keep it up --AL (talk) 20:09, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

  • Ummm ... I've not been active over the summer and I've just seen the deletion of this (book) article to move the film article there, and since I'm not a sysop, I can't reconstruct the deleted book article. The book was well known (an Oprah book) long before the film came out ... could you please drop me a copy of the book article that was deleted so we can begin to reconstruct whatever is needed ? Thanks, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 01:02, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
  • Also, since the link you give here is incomplete, I'm unable to find any request or talk page discussion for this move. There was a notable book well before the film came out, so we'll need to sort out what was lost. Could you please link me to the move request so I can understand the reasoning for deleting the book to make room for the film? SandyGeorgia (Talk) 01:12, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
  • OK, I've finally found something here; that's just wrong. There's a book and there's a film and the popularity of the book (via the Oprah show) was such that it warranted its own article. Please restore the original article, under the (book) title if you prefer. I will ping Bovineboy to this discussion ... Thanks, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 01:16, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
  • Sorry: I cannot find the book article. Page Front of the Class (film) has no deleted edits, and its "public log" ( http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&page=Front+of+the+Class+%28film%29 ) says only that Front of the Class (film) was moved to Front of the Class. Front of the Class is sitting over 5 deleted edits, but these edits are all only redirects (to Front of the Class (film) and Brad Cohen). There was no page move from name Front of the Class to anywhere. There is some information about the book in page Brad Cohen. Perhaps someone can write a new article about the book? Anthony Appleyard (talk) 04:40, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

Allright, I just corrected the faulty move. There was a book that was well known long before the film, the (two) articles state as much, the film article was correctly titled as the film article. Perhaps someday I'll write the book article, but not today. Perhaps you could keep an eye on that user's moves, since I see he now has file mover rights in spite of similar errors. Thanks again, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 08:07, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

GoldeneEye Cut & Paste

Thanks for reverting those vandalisms on my user page

I have dealt with that individual [or group thereof] before. I will want to send you an e-mail later with more details. Backtable Speak to meconcerning my deeds. 21:49, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Page history lost on a dab

  • Hi, It seems to me that someone has deleted a page as uncontroversial maintenance (G6) and lost some information and the page history, and I would guess that making a particular topic the primary topic is controversial: see discussion. The deleting admin seems to me to be a bit muddled saying that he might have lost track a bit here. Snowman (talk) 09:05, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
    Update: The deleted admin has noticed the extra discussion on the WP:Birds talk page and has just fixed the affected pages and the page history on the deleted dab. As far as I can see, there is no need for you to do anything here now, but you might be interested to see the recent edits following your contributions to these pages in 2006. Snowman (talk) 09:27, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
  • Thank you for making the edit history on the dab "Shortwing" visible. Your attention to details is appreciated. Snowman (talk) 09:50, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
  • I have just changed Talk:Shortwing from a redirect to a talk page with a WP banner; see my edits. Does any edit history on the talk page need restoring? Snowman (talk) 10:21, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

Article proposed for Deletion

  • Hello, I am trying to propose Imbros and Tenedos for deletion as there are articles on each of those Turkish islands and therefore no need to have them together on a separate page. As I am not very able in tagging and other related procedures I am kindly requesting you to review whatever I may have done and correct where there might be a mistake, please. Thanks in advance and all the best. --E4024 (talk) 10:56, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
  •  Done Anthony Appleyard (talk) 11:10, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

Booker move

Die Young

Thanks :) Sionk (talk) 22:33, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

Improper move

  • Hi there. An editor recently moved the Eko Atlantic City article to Eko Atlantic, and merely copied & pasted the content into the new article. As a result, attribution is not given to the original article creator in the history page. Even after I asked the editor to either correct this or ask an admin for assistance, the issue is still unresolved. Could you please merge the history of the original article into the current article? Thank you. Amsaim (talk) 14:49, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
  •  Done Anthony Appleyard (talk) 15:42, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
  • Thanks very much for the assistance. Amsaim (talk) 17:52, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

Hassaniya Arabic () listed at Redirects for discussion

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Windows Phone 7 move not uncontroversial

The article Charlie Mulgrew (Gaelic footballer) has been proposed for deletion because it appears to have no references. Under Wikipedia policy, this newly created biography of a living person will be deleted unless it has at least one reference to a reliable source that directly supports material in the article. The nominator also raised the following concern:

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Page move request for Octopussy

  • According to this, you would have moved all the underlying requests. However, it seems that this request was archived without actioning. Is there a problem I should know about? Regards, -- Ohconfucius ping / poke 03:49, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
  • Oops. Sorry. Now  Done. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:40, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
  • I'm not sure who requested this move, but they have no idea what they are on about. Can you revert please to the corrrect title: Octopussy and The Living Daylights. It's two short stories, each of which are capitalised. the book has been published with a capital T since 1966, so I'm not sure why we need to reinvent it now! Thanks - SchroCat (^@) 06:22, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
  •  Done Anthony Appleyard (talk) 07:43, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
That's great—many thanks indeed. - SchroCat (^@) 07:47, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
  • I'm sorry, but it seems I may have been mistaken that this was inappropriately capitalised as 'vanity', and it was in fact one of the legitimate exceptions for capitalisation of 'The' in mid-phrase. -- Ohconfucius ping / poke 06:48, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

Deletion discussion about Pexco, LLC

Hello, Anthony Appleyard,

I wanted to let you know that there's a discussion about whether Pexco, LLC should be deleted. Your comments are welcome at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pexco, LLC .

If you're new to the process, articles for deletion is a group discussion (not a vote!) that usually lasts seven days. If you need it, there is a guide on how to contribute. Last but not least, you are highly encouraged to continue improving the article; just be sure not to remove the tag about the deletion nomination from the top.

Thanks, Batard0 (talk) 04:09, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

Inappropriate move

  • Hi there. Could you please move this article back to the original article title? An editor went ahead, moved the article from Die Young to Die Young (Black Sabbath song), and made a false disambiguation page of the Die Young article, creating a piped-link thus violating WP:D3 in 2 areas: adding entries without a blue link & adding piped links. I have removed the inappropriate piped link from the article. The Afd which establised community consensus, that the Kesha Die Young song does not merit its own article, is thusly being bypassed with this article move & piped linking. Your attention is required here please. Thank you. Amsaim (talk) 12:15, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
  •  Done Anthony Appleyard (talk) 12:19, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
  • Wow, that was fast. Thanks very much. Amsaim (talk) 12:34, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

Friendly reminder

Please check talk pages for an on going RM discussion before doing "uncontroversial" move requests. While everyone agrees that Minneapolis−Saint Paul International Airport (used a minus sign) was patently wrong it probably would have been better to wait until the RM was closed. On the other hand, that RM has been open for a month and can probably be closed - but I would caution that while it seems to me uncontroversial to use hyphen, the "uncontroversial" request was to use an en dash,[4] and this question is the subject of both an open RfC and discussion on the WP:MOS talk page. While it is true that the editor who moved the article in 2011 intended to use an endash, that was an undiscussed and clearly controversial move. It was moved "per WP:ENDASH",[5] (see edit summary at left) but it is argued that it should be moved back, "per WP:HYPHEN". I will admit that I also considered submitting an uncontroversial move to fix the minus sign, but rejected the idea. At the very least I would have posted the suggestion and asked for agreement before proceeding, something that was not done.

I am definitely not suggesting that it be moved back to a minus sign! Apteva (talk) 06:28, 27 September 2012 (UTC)

Thank you!

Thank you for helping clean up the mess I made when I was trying to get the article into mainspace, I just wasn't thinking as clear as I should have been. I appreciate your time on that! Insomesia (talk) 20:57, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

Internet storage request fell through the cracks?

Thank you!! Jojalozzo 22:33, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

Three-Lobed Burning Eye history merge

RM

Some page history not visible

Typo.

Um

Possibly unfree File:Aa filton near Bristol UK 1935.jpg

A file that you uploaded or altered, File:Aa filton near Bristol UK 1935.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Possibly unfree files because its copyright status is unclear or disputed. If the file's copyright status cannot be verified, it may be deleted. You may find more information on the file description page. You are welcome to add comments to its entry at the discussion if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 14:50, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

  • Hi,
    I was browsing the deletion review logs, and noticed that you had undeleted Ol Pejeta Conservancy. However, it looks like you didn't undelete the associated talk page, Talk:Ol Pejeta Conservancy. Shouldn't the talk page be undeleted too now that the article has been restored? Calathan (talk) 15:05, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
  • The deleted form of Talk:Ol Pejeta Conservancy contains only "{{WikiProject Cricket|class=stub|importance=low}}", and Ol Pejeta is not a cricket ground. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 15:49, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
Ok, thanks for the explanation. Calathan (talk)

A tag has been placed on File:Aa before birmingham uk airport.jpg requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section F9 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the image appears to be a blatant copyright infringement. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted images or text borrowed from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.

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A barnstar for you

The Working Man's Barnstar
In appreciation of the endless, quiet but essential work you do without dramas on Wikipedia – Epipelagic (talk) 22:07, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

Moving the article to "Siege of Baniyas"

  • Sorry for any confusion, but there's actually no discussion going on about moving the article. The article gets very little views. Me and another editor are probably the only ones knowing about this move proposal. I've tried multiple methods to get this article moved, which in the end probably just caused more confusion. To conclude, please help move the article and merge the histories if they are affected. -- FutureTrillionaire (talk) 22:41, 13 October 2012 (UTC)
  •  Done Anthony Appleyard (talk) 06:42, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

Saihu

  • Thanks for your help with the Saihu item on the list of dogs, but it still makes no sense to me. We need a Chinese speaker to help, I think, as it's a good contribution to the story. Nureongi says that, at least in Korean, the Chinese character for wolfdog and feral native spitz-type is the same. Chrisrus (talk) 16:27, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
  • This is about page List of individual dogs. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 22:35, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

3MB problem

  • I just checked the 3MB page, and it appears to loop in itself. Can you fix it? Keith Okamoto (talk) 00:17, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
  • Already  Done by someone. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 07:28, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

Template:RMinc has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. —Justin (koavf)TCM 06:11, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

Can you see that page and find out why the text "Category:Former colonies|Dutch East Indies, Dutch Empire" is there? I can't find it, thank you. Silvergoat (talk) 21:09, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

That text is inserted by the call of the template Template:Infobox former country. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 22:25, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
I have raised the matter in Template talk:Infobox former country#Programming fault. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 11:13, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
They cured the bug in the template. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 13:05, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
Thank you a lot. Silvergoat (talk) 15:28, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

Jacob (Lost)/redirects listed at Redirects for discussion

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I have unreviewed a page you curated

Thanks

Thanks for moving Tecun Uman, all the best, Simon Burchell (talk) 08:30, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Barnstar of Diligence
Thank you for your hard work at WP:RM. Silvergoat (talk) 20:58, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
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Ivory Coast

FYI

Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Fungi#Thielaviopsis_fraxinea_.2F_Chalara_fraxinea. SmartSE (talk) 20:52, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

Bond 23 & Skyfall

Huh?

I Need You to Unlock a Page for Me

Chalara fraxinea

Hi. I think Chalara fraxinea deserves a WP:DYK nomination (something perhaps like "... that ash dieback started in Poland and has spread throughout Europe, causing the loss of most of Denmark's ash trees?"). I just tried to nominate it myself but I find the process too troublesome to use. Might you want to nominate it yourself?--A bit iffy (talk) 15:34, 30 October 2012 (UTC)

Hello, I nominated Amber Koter-Puline/sandbox for deletion as it is empty and per Wikipedia:Subpages#Disallowed_uses. Please fix the article/delete the article/move the article somwhere if you would like to. -- Cheers, Riley Huntley 15:56, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

RFC bot's RFC/RM tagging bug

Hi there. I noticed that you were also trying to resolve User:RFC bot's bug of posting {{Requested move/dated}} on Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Politics, government, and law.[8] As you probably know, this was the result of a user also wanting to advertise his RM discussion on RFC. I would like to let you know that I think I found a work around: It was only when I listed {{RFC}} after {{Requested move/dated}} [9] that both User:RMCD bot and User:RFC bot apparently ignored each other's tag, and made the appropriate corrections.[10][11] Cheers. Zzyzx11 (talk) 01:29, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

Star Wars Episode VII

Histmerge request

The Beatles moves

Almoravid Caliphate?

  • Hi. You recently moved the page "Almoravid dynasty" to "Almoravid Caliphate" and mentioned in the log that it was an "uncontroversial move" at RM. I couldn't find that RM request. But to the point: Almoravids were emphatically not a Caliphate. A "Caliphate" is a state ruled by a "Caliph". Almoravids were never ruled by a caliph and made a point of emphasizing that. Walrasiad (talk) 08:33, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
  • It is listed here. It was called for by User:Khestwol at 22:58, 7 November 2012 (UTC). Anthony Appleyard (talk) 09:30, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

Disambiguation pages

Hello, Anthony. You moved Inauguration of Barack Obama as "uncontroversial" and created a disambiguation page at the old title. But this was not "uncontroversial" because it violated WP:FIXDABLINKS --

A code of honor for creating disambiguation pages is to fix all resulting mis-directed links.
Before moving an article to a qualified name (in order to create a disambiguation page at the base name, to move an existing disambiguation page to that name, or to redirect that name to a disambiguation page), click on What links here to find all of the incoming links. Repair all of those incoming links to use the new article name.

I think that WP:WikiProject Disambiguation would really appreciate it if you would refuse move requests that involve creating a disambiguation page, unless the person requesting it demonstrates that it will not create any misdirected links. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 11:50, 11 November 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. I know you slave away almost single-handedly at WP:RM and 99% of the time you get it right, so I hate to over-emphasize the 1% that causes a problem. Thanks for all you do on behalf of Wikipedia! --R'n'B (call me Russ) 13:38, 11 November 2012 (UTC)

Tim Ball history, thanks

Thanks for your prompt response re this. As a consequence, we seem to be moving towards an amicable resolution of this contentious MfD. [Knocks on wood]. Best regards, Pete Tillman (talk) 16:51, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

  • Re your comment here: If there is some technical detail that the participants didn't know about and that you do - like how to close the discussion? - I am unclear why you didn't just go ahead and do that action. The name's been chosen, consensus has spoken, none of the page-move participants have posted on that page since October 27th, I thought the discussion was over. The article and its talkpage have been on my watchlist for ages (popped up on new edits when I was young around here), both are targets for all sorts of intermittent drive-by edits and vandalism. Personally, I find your implication offensive, that the (technically?) open page-move discussion was somehow not letting people 'mourn their dead in peace' - you really don't know anything at all about me. Shearonink (talk) 16:38, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
  •  Done: someone moved it to Dachau liberation reprisals, so I left it like that and closed the discussion. Sorry if I offended anyone. I have read plenty about the Holocaust, and I have visited Auschwitz, and to me like many such matters are emotive. Sorry. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 23:37, 15 November 2012 (UTC)

Dish Mexico

Thanks for that histmerge, now something more difficult

Thanks for merging the histories of Mark 18 Torpedo and Mark 18 torpedo. Sorry about that... I was still a noob back then when I performed the copy/paste move.

Now for a more complicated histmerge:

On December 21, 2008, I changed the Traynor page from being an article about a brand of guitar amplifiers to being a disambiguation page. I copied the old guitar amp text over to Yorkville Sound (the brand owner and founder), but after a while I had a change of heart and I created the Traynor Amplifiers article, pasting the old text into that namespace. I think there should be a history merge of the old part of Traynor with Traynor Amplifiers. The history of the newer dab page should be retained at the dab page, starting from December 21, 2008.

Thanks in advance for your attention! Binksternet (talk) 23:46, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

Awesome! Thanks, really. Binksternet (talk) 06:16, 17 November 2012 (UTC)

The article List of names similar to Mick has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

pointless list; places that need this list should list the elements directly

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WP7 redirect to Windows Phone page

Hi I've finished editing the Windows Phone 7 page, but when I type in "Windows Phone 7" in some searches it still automatically redirects to "Windows Phone". May you remove the redirect now that the Windows Phone 7 page has been completed? Thanks Gamer9832 (talk) 21:40, 22 November 2012 (UTC)

When you type in "Windows Phone 7" into the "Search" bar at the top it still redirects to Windows Phone. Gamer9832 (talk) 08:23, 23 November 2012 (UTC)
Sorry to bother you, I was able to fix it. Gamer9832 (talk) 08:28, 23 November 2012 (UTC)

Hello, just thought you'd like to know that the above article you created has been proposed for deletion by another editor.

Thank you.Rotten regard Softnow 01:29, 23 November 2012 (UTC)

Steinkjer

  • This is regarding your deletion of Steinkjer (town) with the rationale "the same as Steinkjer". Presumably you read the talk page and noticed that the speedy was contested. I am uncertain if you investigated the claim made by the nominator that the municipality of Steinkjer and the town of Steinkjer are the same. The municipality is a large area (ca. 1600 km2) which has a multitude of larger and smaller villages throughout it. One of these is the town of Steinkjer. These happen to have the same name (yes, the municipality is named for the town). That does not mean that they "are the same". The scope difference of the articles is a similar confusion as to that of New York State and New York City, although at a smaller scale (I chose this example as it presumably one that you are familiar with). If either of the Steinkjer articles were expanded to a decent length, they would evolve into significantly different scopes. Either way, using speedy deletion for such an article is a suboptimal line of action as it evident that it is not a clear consensus for deletion. Arsenikk (talk) 23:49, 23 November 2012 (UTC)
  • I have undeleted it. It was speedy delete nominated at 18:17, 23 November 2012‎ by User:Steve.rusyn. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:37, 24 November 2012 (UTC)

Favour required

4G Wifi

  • Dear Sir you have deleted my page and listed it as a hoax.
    My page is no joke sir.

It provides information. Which countries currently have 4G Wifi Networks and which companies provide these networks. The information has been researched and is not biased to any one supplier. The page will also be helpful to anyone researching 4G wifi global suppliers. And defines what 4G Wifi actually is. Please can you explain which part or why you think that this page was a hoax and I ask with respect for you to reverse your decision to delete this Wikipedia page.

  • Hi. You recently moved the page as "uncontroversial" despite it being obvious that there is some sort of disagreement taking place. Would you mind moving it back so a proper discussion can take place? Thanks. Jempoc (talk) 04:10, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
  • I found a quantity of query about religious apparitions at Međugorje/Medugorje. I have started a move discussion at Talk:Međugorje#Move?. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 06:25, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
    Hello Anthony - I explained myself in the original request you carried out. If Jempoc hadn't made those edits to the article and talkpage, I would have been able to revert per WP:BRD. I've also contested Jempoc's request, with a bit more explanation. I know you do a thankless job; I'm sorry to be a part of any extra difficulty. Thanks. Dohn joe (talk) 06:47, 25 November 2012 (UTC)

Sock

Knowing you, and knowing what I do of Materialscientist, I think the accusation is absurd. The IP's other edits were unambiguous vandalism and trolling too. JamesBWatson (talk) 15:37, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for moving my edit history so promptly. > MinorProphet (talk) 08:19, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

Kangdong

Kangdong (village) is the same as Gangdong-myeon, Gyeongju. Sawol (talk) 11:28, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

Suncheon/Sunchon

  • Check revision histories of them. They are not Parallel versions. Do you want to lost page history from '12:15, 24 January 2006‎ Visviva' to '09:49, 6 March 2012‎ MastiBot'? Sawol (talk) 11:36, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
  • Sunchon's history runs from 28 to 30 November 2012 and is almost all WP:Parallel history with the latter part of Sunchon's history; the parallel parts seem to be a long edit war of cutting-and-pasting between these two names. As Suncheon has the old history, I am tempted to revert Suncheon to text and redirect Sunchon to Suncheon. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 12:49, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
  • I agree with you in your opinion to redirect Sunchon to Suncheon. User:In ictu oculi obstructed my edition. Sawol (talk) 12:58, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
  •  Done Anthony Appleyard (talk) 15:12, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

Another administrator's Barnstar for you

The Admin's Barnstar
Your nearly single-handed work responding to WP:RM/TR technical requests in a timely manner is truly appreciated! – Wbm1058 (talk) 15:50, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

History merge request

Pardon me if this isn't the proper place for this request, but since you just did a related histmerge, thought I'd mention it here.

– thanks, Wbm1058 (talk) 15:50, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

"into" is not always a preposition

Hi Anthony. You made a statement at Talk:He's Just Not That into You (film), which I contradict with some little reasoning. I'd appreciated if you would review and comment. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 10:39, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

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Talkback

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Toʻylar muborak

  • We seem to have reached a consensus here. Please move the page. Sorry for contacting and bothering you. Nataev (talk) 19:02, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
  •  Done Anthony Appleyard (talk) 23:23, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

TNEB Limited

Hi, Anthony Appleyard. I am little bit confused about your close of TNEB Limited move request and removal of the history merge tag. I agree that this issue is complicated. TNEB Limited and Tamil Nadu Electricity Board were merged last summer by overall consensus, opposed by only now blocked creator of these articles. It was only recently when a new editor started to recreate separate articles doing it mainly by copy-paste moves. Meanwhile Tamil Nadu Electricity Board was moved to TNEB as a compromise (being acronym of the Tamil Nadu Electricity Board and being the name of TNEB Limited according to the WP:NCCORP), but again, this was contested by the above-mentioned editor. However, he/she seems to agree now to have only one article instead of two. My understanding about this is that:

  • There have been a number of copy-paste moves and for article history, the history merge is needed.
  • There are different views what the article's name should be (TNEB versus TNEB Limited). Therefore it was listed under WP:RM to have more broader discussion what the correct name should be.
    • As you speedily closed the move request discussion as also removed the history merge tag, I would like to ask how you suggest to proceed this issue because the current state with these articles is not satisfactory. Beagel (talk) 14:10, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

London Stone

  • You wrote " The words "the remayning parte" show that in 1761 the stone was known to have been much bigger in former times." Shouldn't this be suggests? We don't know that whoever wrote this wasn't just making an assumption. Of course a source would help also. Dougweller (talk) 20:04, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
  •  Done Anthony Appleyard (talk) 22:24, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
Thanks. Dougweller (talk) 07:49, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

Man Booker Prize -> Booker Prize

  • Hi. I see that you moved the "Man Booker Prize Winners" template to "Booker Prize". How do I go about challenging the decision? I realise you were responding to a move request from an anonymous IP editor. However, as the prize is known as the Man Booker Prize, I believe that name should remain on the template. Thanks. - Fanthrillers (talk) 01:24, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
  • Already  Done by someone. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 06:10, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

Manchester Metrolink progress

Surprised that an admin with eight years editing experience would use "I live near there" as an excuse for adding unreferenced material to Wikipedia. I've tagged the section as unreferenced rather than remove it this time, but I do wonder how long a section on progress would stay on the page anyway seeing as it becomes out of date so quickly. Skyscrapercity.com is usually the place for progress updates. Cheers. Delsion23 (talk) 16:54, 7 December 2012 (UTC)

Requesting move

Massive Article Moves of Washington Ballot Measures w/o Mention on Talk Pages

I was surprised to see that you had recently performed several moves of articles about Washington ballot measures without having noticed any discussion of those moves on the pages for the articles, but rather at the more obscure WP:RM. I would ask that you please revert those until the matters can be discussed on the various individual pages because I believe that all of these moves violate WP:AT in that they break consistency with other ballot measures across Wikipedia.

Although I see what you are trying to do, I am strongly in favor of including parenthetic years for all US ballot measure articles as a matter of consistency, whether a state re-uses numbers or not. The basic title format of State + Type + Number + (Parenthetical year) provides maximal information very concisely: California Proposition 13 (1978), Oregon Ballot Measure 9 (1992), Washington Referendum 71 (2009), Washington Initiative 502 (2011), and Colorado Amendment 64 (2012). Redirects such as Proposition 13 can easily be established for famous items or from year-to-year, with those easily converted do disambiguation pages as needed should similar titles be WP:Notable. The State + Type + Number + (Parenthetical year) format is well established for many states, if not most, and this seems to me the simplest, soundest, most comprehensive and least ambiguous solution. This article, with its previous parenthetical year number, was consistent with long-established practice across all of Wikipedia. The permanent article should include the year number, with redirects such as Initiative 502 created or changed as necessary.

If you could please undo these moves and open discussion of any future moves up on the page of the article in question, I would much appreciate it and the opportunity to discuss this on an article by article basis. On that basis I believe the key principle of consistency across articles as set at WP:AT is key. Rorybowman (talk) 07:15, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

Final Fantasy XIV

  • I think you left the histmerge incomplete. You have Talk:GU (food) histmerged, but the article still deleted. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 09:03, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
  • I have undeleted it. Sorry. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 09:07, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
No problem. =) I only noticed it because the talk page was listed as an orphaned talk page. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 09:16, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
  • I think User:Sawol may have kludged this up here. My intent was to redirect GU (food) (nonnotable product) to GU Energy Labs (the company, marginally notable). now its reversed. Of course, I myself did my redirect w/o waiting for a PROD to be decided, so maybe I kludged it somehow, including possibly losing article edit history. that would be me being bold :( . If you agree GU Energy Labs should be the name, any chance you can figure out what happened and fix it again?Mercurywoodrose (talk) 05:01, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
  • I history-merged GU Energy Labs to GU (food) (asked for by {{db-histmerge}}) because they were a perfect match for history-merging with close resemblance, near dates at the jump, and no WP:Parallel histories except a few stray redirects. I did not history-merge GU Energy Labs to GU Energy because of severe WP:Parallel histories even if I ignored redirect edits. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 06:09, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
  • See this request. I went ahead and did this as a technical move, relying on the language at the top of WP:RM that says that undiscussed moves may be reverted. The move that I reverted had the article at Shlomo Adeni, a name that cannot be attested from the Jewish Encyclopedia, the only source in the article that is visible online. Is it normal to act on this kind of request as a technical move? This hands the job of opening up a move discussion to the original mover. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 05:47, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
  • That seems acceptable. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 06:01, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
Hi Anthony, thanks. I followed this pretty much by chance as I was about to leave a note of thanks for Ed. This is only the 2nd time I have used WP:RM/TR, the first that a Disney (artist) to (animator) a few days ago. Mainly to experience how this alternative to db-G6 (which I have never used) works. It seems to me that WP:TR is less problem-bound than db-G6 in 2 respects - (i) it displays the TR on WP:RM for all and sundry to see. (ii) it doesn't erase/hide the history, including the identity of the requestor. the request is highly visible both in requestor's edit history and in article history. It is interesting to see Ed's question because it suggests that not even experienced admins are clear from the guidance on WP:RM about how to exercise WP:BRD with locked moves, and also whether TR or db-G6 is more appropriate. This is all old news to you of course, but I want to just check that my take on this is broadly correct. In ictu oculi (talk) 08:57, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

Ansell

Ansell (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Ansell (disambiguation) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Some revisions are in the wrong pages. --George Ho (talk) 07:39, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

Happy Holidays to You!

I hope you and your family have a very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year! Happy Editing! From a fellow wikipedian! Snoozlepet (talk) 17:12, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Histmerge

Merry Xmas

Talkback

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FutureTrillionaire (talk) 15:38, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

My slipup in technical move?

  • Hello Anthony. Could you look at Born Sinner? This was a recent request at WP:RM/TR, and I have kept it in the list since I'm not satisfied with the result. At the top of the page it still shows 'Born Sinner (album)', rather than Born Sinner. What did I do wrong? Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 01:26, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
  • Never mind. It has fixed itself with no further edits on my part. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 02:48, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
  • I have undeleted all but the last of the old deleted edits, to complete a histmerge :: there was edit continuity across the jump, see this diff. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 06:22, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
  • Looks like I missed that. Thanks for fixing, EdJohnston (talk) 17:55, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

Hi, Anthony. Hope you are doing fine. Please, be so kind and take a look at this proposal. Thank you! Regards, --Fabio Descalzi, aka Fadesga (talk) 13:14, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

Healthcare in the Republic of Georgia

Don't Worry Kyoko (Mummy's Only Looking for Her Hand in the Snow)

Thanks for sorting out the history on this article! All the best, Ubcule (talk) 00:05, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

Terminator Salvation

Hi. I do not appreciate you starting a move request for 2012 Constitution of Egypt under my name, then dragging over comments I made on another page onto that request. That's blatant impersonation. The comments I made that you pasted in were specifically for the technical move I was requested. I removed the fake request you made, and created a new request based on what I actually do want to say in a standard move request. I know that you commented earlier on the request you pretended was mine, so I'm just writing to let you know that you can remake your argument on the new one. Trinitresque (talk) 07:45, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

The Howard School

Thanks for that. By doing all the renames & disambiguation in addition to the requested history merge you took it to where I was going next and saved me the job! --Bob Re-born (talk) 23:08, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

A Move Request

  • Hey, Anthony, would it be possible if I could ask if you could move Nuralagus rex to Nuralagus, or at least get your advice on the situation? I thought it would be an uncontroversial move that should have been quick, but, it now seems to be getting bogged down by a contrarian unfamiliar with wikipolicy concerning monotypic genera. Thank you for your time, either way.--Mr Fink (talk) 05:29, 31 December 2012 (UTC)
  • I better let the move discussion run its course. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 06:20, 31 December 2012 (UTC)