User talk:A Man In Black/Archive22

Brandt close

Good luck. Have fun sorting out that mess. JoshuaZ 23:49, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

I'm looking forward to reading your analysis. Make me proud I unblocked you. :) Regards, Newyorkbrad 23:50, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

You closed it the exact same way I would: suspend it and read all the arguments. Well done. (I would've participated in the closing, but apparently I've had prior involvement.) Good luck. Let's hope no one abuses Deletion Review because they disagree. (messedrocker • talk) 00:34, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

I would hope someone would take it to DRV if they don't feel I've arrived at the best conclusion for Wikipedia as a whole. I can't realistically hope to avoid DRV, only hope to forge a solution that will survive it. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 00:36, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Should I copy over the edit history of the article to something like Talk:Daniel Brandt/edit history so that there will be a lasting copy of the edit history for GFDL purposes? (In the event the page itself is deleted?) (messedrocker • talk) 00:51, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

It won't be, unless someone deletes it despite this close. A protected redirect does as good a job as that when it comes to obscuring the old history. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 00:53, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

		The Original Barnstar
		For having the guts to close the AfD, I "proudly, yet angrily", present you with this Barnstar. --h2g2bob (talk) 01:37, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Arroooo. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 01:37, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Absolutely spot on close. Well done. ++Lar: t/c 01:51, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

An eminentally well thought out and sensible close. To paraphrase someone: good work, and good luck.--Cúchullain ^t/c 07:44, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

• Thanks for your work. Keep it up no matter how much noise you hear. --JWSchmidt 18:33, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

DRV

I'm really sorry to have to do this, but I've requested a DRV on the Brandt AfD. [1]. JoshuaZ 01:27, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 01:37, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

		What a Brilliant Idea Barnstar
		I merely commented on the Daniel Brandt AfD, however your conclusion and recommendation was definitely thinking "outside the box" and merits a kudo! Wildthing61476 01:53, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

• Add a bar to that barnstar, my friend. Guy (Help!) 07:06, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

• Another one from me. Good job!

		The Editor's Barnstar
		I, Durova award A Man In Black the Editor's Barnstar for superb work in the Daniel Brandt WP:AFD. It isn't easy to approach a dilemma that has festered for so long and come up with something that makes the situation better. I think you did a better job of resolving that discussion than I did in opening it. You've earned my respect both for your courage in closing a very difficult AFD and for your excellent reasoning that balanced the needs and arguments of all sides. DurovaCharge! 20:06, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

I see I'm not the first one to notice! You deserve a compliment for that wise, indeed Solomonic, decision on how to handle the Brandt AFD. Cheers, Antandrus (talk) 01:30, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

I second (or third or fourth) all those barnstars. Good work :) Martinp23 21:05, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Greetings

This is slightly overdue, but great to have you back, Mr. Black. Now if HighwayCello returns anytime soon, I'll be REALLY surprised. Also, I was wondering if you or someone else who sees this might be interested in uploading a better console pic for the GameCube page? The one on there now really looks pretty sad IMO, what with the ugly orange 3rd-party memory card and the messy wire. I'd do it myself, but my digital camera sucks bigtime. Nintenboy01 03:08, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Question

With regards to your Archive links at the top of the page. Say I want to consider a new page, but want to see what it looks like before I create it and thus want it as like, an off-shoot of my user page. Like, under the magic discussion here, the one guy mentions a page "User: A Man In Black/Whatever" How would I do a page like that for me? The Clawed One 19:08, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

If you want to make a user subpage, just make a page named User:The Clawed One/whatevernameyoulike. You can add this after the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ in the title bar, link to a nonexistant page with the name you'd like, or type the name in the Search box and hit Go. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 03:04, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Thank you. I'm attempting a large merge and wanted to test it first. The Clawed One 03:10, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Public Information Research

Hi, I'm leaving this here as I see you don't have e-mail enabled. I was wondering if you would agree to us having one article on Public Information Research, rather than four articles about its various projects. This would be in keeping with your closure decision, I think, to merge relevant material into title(s) about PIR's work, rather than a bio. I've written a draft, which you can see here; I've deleted it in the meantime, so as not to risk further chaos. :-) Could you let me know what you think about organizing things that way? SlimVirgin ^(talk) 23:16, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

I don't have any strong opinion about how to organize things, but that sounds reasonable to me. It seems like a good redirect target for the Brandt title, if that merge is done. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 03:02, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

I agree with this, but even more so with the notion that "Daniel Brandt" should redirect to Public Information Research, not to NameBase. I wonder if you could fix this? (NB I've spent a bit of time trying to tidy up these various PIR articles.) --jbmurray (talk|contribs) 02:06, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

I have no strong opinion about where it redirects. I'd suggest opening a discussion at Talk:Daniel Brandt about this, and I'll redirect whereever everyone agrees it should point after the DRV is done. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 04:46, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

DRV notification

I have asked for a deletion review of Daniel Brandt. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Ta bu shi da yu 10:22, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

There was already one going, sorry, didn't see it. I really can't see why you think a "complex merge" is going to satisfy anything. - Ta bu shi da yu 10:41, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Daniel Brandt (redirects here)

";Daniel Brandt (redirects here)" in the see also sectiom was a label, a title, a subsection heading. It is common and appropriate in see also sections. WAS 4.250 16:18, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Are there any other examples you can show me? After editing for years, I've never once seen that done. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 16:23, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Missingno.

I just moved Glitches found in the Pokémon video games to Pokémon video game glitches, and I need to fix the WP:2R for Missingno. and 'M. However, both are protected, and I'm not an admin. Can you do it? hbdragon88 05:02, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

AFD

How do I nominate an article for deletion? The Clawed One 10:22, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

No help? The Clawed One 00:11, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Oh! Tag it with {{subst:afd}}, click the "preloaded debate" link and fill that out, then go back to the article you want to delete and copy-paste the afd3 template into the day's list (which is linked right after that). - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 00:48, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. The page I want to nominate is a real mess - speculation, no sources, no Neutral POV...unfortunately the same can be said for many of the related pages in the bottom template. It seems games in particular have sourcing problems. The Clawed One 01:36, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Navboxes

Hi, are you still interested in pursuing standardized navbox appearances? I'm uncertain if the CVG project ever agreed on a standard appearance, so if you feel like chiming in on the recently updated {{Castlevania series}} template I would appreciate it. Cheers. Combination 10:39, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

That template makes my brain hurt. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 16:40, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

To clarify, no, I'm really not. It's not worth fighting people over their ugly-ass, bloated, useless shit. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 23:37, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Article for Removal (AfR)

I've been working on an Article for Removal (AfR) proposal and would appreciate any comments you have. Thanks! -- Jreferee ^(Talk) 02:15, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

No real thoughts on the subject right now, other than that it needs a better name. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 02:20, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Barnstar

I looked at your awards and saw the barnstar for vandalism that caused the giver to smile. What vandalism was it? I would love to see it. -- Jac _roe 20:31, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Okie doke. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 22:33, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

:D EXCELLENT!!! -- Jac _roe^Blank 16:15, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Comments.

1. Removing one box art merely complicates issues. There need to be a visual representation of the PAL version for the PAL readers.
2. I'm going to begin a discussion related to specific information on Pokémon articles, including evolution details. - A Link to the Past (talk) 03:44, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

It's a shame that it complicates things. This doesn't mean that the removal of the second image isn't necessary. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 05:41, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Brain Age cover art

Allo.
(I didn't know if you'd prefer this here, or on the article talk page; so I arbitrarily chose here. I'm more than happy to take it there if you prefer)
While although I don't think that reasons like, 'equal consideration', or representing specifically for the sake of european readers are at all relevant, I still think there may be reasonable logic behind including both boxarts in this case. In this case, it isn't just the different titles, but the combination of different titles, different colours, updated graphics (ie. DS Lite instead of DS), and the difference in flashiness (the graph-paper style background and subdued tone of the european cover, versus the overstated NA background that makes me expect a gong, and includes a much more pronounced sudoku mention), together, seem to present a more complete look than either could do alone.
(Also, the graph-paper background better illustrates the adult-audience/non-game-game titles that nintendo's pushing now) Bladestorm 04:17, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

The problem is that we only need one image to identify this game. I don't really care which image is used, but there's no justification for using two images where one identifies the game. All of the things you just told me aren't actually mentioned in the article, and indeed shouldn't be, since no reliable source have seen fit to comment on either cover. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 05:40, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

I don't know if you have it on your watchlist or not, but further discussion has been added to the Brain Age talk page. Incidentally, in terms of whether or not anyone's directly commented on the cover, it still remains true that people have commented on the presentation of the game (specifically, how it related to a later title, "Big Brain Academy"). That is, people have commented on aspects of the game that's directly reflected by the cover. (Much in the same way that, if people were to talking about how wild-eyed and freaky looking John Doe was, a picture that perfectly illustrated this would qualify, even if people hadn't directly commented on that picture) If I'm wrong about something, then I'm always happy to be created (always nice to learn), but further explanation would be appreciated. Anyways, this was really just a notification that there's been a significant addition to the article's talk page, in case it isn't on your watchlist. :) Bladestorm 03:55, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

A single image illustrates that just as well as two. I've commented on that talk page, in any event. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 03:57, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

I know you've commented there. :) But more has been added, and your input is appreciated. (and, like I said, I don't know if it's on your watchlist or not) :) Bladestorm 04:05, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Brandt Courtesy blanking

The discussion page was blanked. The AfD was blanked. But the article history itself is still there (i.e. old versions of the article are alive). Any thoughts on purging that as well? --Tbeatty 20:56, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Civility concern

I am concered about the generally civility of the content you have pasted onto your talk page. I do not find what you have said about Richard Nixon amusing, and an admin should have better maturity than that. Francisco Tevez 17:28, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Well it is capitalized as a proper noun, so it is a Dick, as I am technically a Dave. You are a Francisco. daveh4h 17:59, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Overall. His behaviour still seems to be shocking. Francisco Tevez 18:05, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Lighten up. We're not here to socialize and goof around, but we're not limited to being tight asses. TTN 18:23, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

A sense of humor is absolutely vital for an administrator, in my opinion. Any serious editor will burn themselves out rather quickly if they don't have a bit of an outlet (I've sure as hell got one of my own). EVula // talk // ☯ // 18:26, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

ok Francisco Tevez 18:27, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Francisco Tevez has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Happy editing!
Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

this might do instead.

Notability for Queen of Blades

You shoved up a notability for the StarCraft: Queen of Blades article. Whilst I agree with it at the moment, please don't take it further to a vote for deletion. It's on the to do list, but be advised, it's a rather long to do list. I'm working on a lot of StarCraft pages at the moment, so it may take some time. -- S@bre

Incorrect spelling in Tittle

article: Seige of Bastogne It should be Siege of Bastogne Please fix this error, as it may cause problems --DWP17 21:09, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

WP:FICT rewrite

This should interest you:

User:Deckiller/Notability (fiction).

Relevant discussion being held on my talkpage and WT:FICT. — Deckiller 22:22, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

I don't get it. Very few advocates of encyclopedic treatment of fiction are commenting. Yourself included, which is rather surprising. Busy? — Deckiller 05:51, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

I've been consciously working on getting stuff done in the article and image spaces, instead of getting bogged down in policy. That said, I'll take a look. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 05:53, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

This one might actually be worth it. It's split down the middle right now. — Deckiller 05:58, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Considering that I just committed political suicide on the mailing list (which will be my last e-mail on that list, since I unsubscribed), I think I'll call it a night. Long road ahead. — Deckiller 07:24, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

WikiEN-l has ever been a massive, useless, clusterfuck, existing only for people to argue with banned trolls and get into retarded flamewars. I don't see any reason to worry about or reply to any post there. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 08:24, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

I will never use that jokefest of a mailing list ever again, and I have little respect for the people who were "arguing" against me, except for one or two people. The insulting by several users in particular were enough to make me vomit, especially considering I was only intending a one-way ADVERTISEMENT of the rewrite. Such armchair immaturity, if it were to spill over to Wikipedia, would indeed cause the project to fail rapidly. I unsubscribed. — Deckiller 13:58, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Block

How do you request an annonymous user for blocking? The Clawed One 23:31, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Regarding your deletion of http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Nenolod&action=edit

Hello, I'm contacting you to find out why you deleted http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Nenolod&action=edit . You say that it had unnecessary personal attacks, but rather than rectifying that, you outright deleted the entire RfC, which clearly had merit due to policy violations. As to your question of certification, I personally contacting Nenolod on his talk page, AND linked to the diffs on the RfC. The initiator of the RfC, if I recall correctly, said he contacted Nenolod via IRC, and perhaps he could have clarified that had he been asked to. Instead, the page was deleted perhaps an hour after it was created. I request that you reinstate the RfC and let whatever clarification that may occur, occur, at least for a few of the 48 hours given. Regards, cacophony ◄► 10:41, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

See your talk. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 10:50, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Crowning moments

Greetings. I'm contacting you because you have experience in dealing with our non-free content policy as it pertains to images. A so-far unresolved issue deals with "crowning moments" for beauty pageant contestants. This specific issue is heated because of previous disputes between the aptly named User:PageantUpdater and the obscurely named User:Abu badali, but the same issue could apply to many other classes of images as well. All parties have made their cases adequately, but consensus is still elusive, so the issue remains open long after other problems have been resolved. Could you go to Wikipedia:Images_and_media_for_deletion/2007_June_18#Image:MissUSA2007Crowned.jpg and give your opinion? It would really help us to finish this issue and move on. Thanks! – Quadell ^{(talk) (random)} 18:46, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
(This message was copied to several other image-wonks at the same time.)

Hm. Not as blatant as some, but not something that bears illustrating. (Think of if we had non-free images of every single annual national award being awarded!) - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 16:17, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Blocks of A Link to the Past and DrSturm

Hello.
I was wondering if you could reconsider your blocks of Link and DrSturm.
There's obviously no question that they absolutely violated 3RR, both in letter and in spirit. I acknowledge that (and am rather irritated by it). However, blocks are intended to be preventative, not punitive. By the time they were blocked, they'd already stopped edit-warring. As such, the blocks didn't actually achieve anything. I'd already left warnings on both of their talk pages (as well as telling them that'd I'd report them for 3RR myself if they didn't take it to the article's discussion page). Heck, in link's case, he was blocked a full eight hours after his last revert.
I mean absolutely no disrespect. Believe me, I'm getting tired of his crap. However, I still believe that blocks should only be used preventively, and blocking someone eight hours after the fact doesn't seem to prevent anything.
In any event, I will, of course, accept your decision, whether it's to unblock, or let the block stand. You'll not face any argument from me. :) It's simply a request. Bladestorm 16:43, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

I think it's fairly safe that both would simply come back and resume edit warring when they came back online. Hopefully, this way, DrSturm will know better next time and...well, I don't know if ALTTP will ever stop edit warring, but maybe a block will get him on the right track. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 16:45, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Endorse block. Users have a history of edit warring; a block will hopefully help to prevent future incidents. — Deckiller 16:56, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Relief sought

Dear Administrator,

You are the first administrator in Wiki list and I seek your advice. I have been encountering for a long time a serious problem of edit reversion, often irrational and unreasonable, by a group of four people. I have a strong feeling that these four people have been colluding with each other and preventing others to make rational edits with proper citations. Their arguments defy logic. Today (June 30th) I made a couple of edits in Chalukya dynasty. Within a period of one hour, three users simultaneously pounced on me. One reverted my edits without discussion. The other made false allegations that I am in touch with some banned user. The third threatened to block me. Is it not a clear evidence of collusion? Is there any way out in Wiki to this madness?

Please spend some time to analyse the edits I made in Telugu language, Telugu script, Brahmic family, Chalukya dynasty and Origin of Vijayanagar empire. Also, analyze the arguments of this group of persons and how they helped each other and ultimately, do something for Wiki sake. Kumarrao 20:16, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

I'm not equipped to really understand what's going on here, sorry. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 20:21, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Advice

Okay, so I was probably ultimately arguing the wrong points yesterday. If we can put that to one side, what's your take on what to do with something like Blue Space? My first instinct is to merge it, but I can't for the life of me work out where. My next instinct is to prod, but that seems so final. Thoughts? Hiding Talk 22:17, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Tag it with {{Notability}}, I suppose, and ask the creator (who seems to be an active editor) for some more info and references. There's just such a shortage of editors working on European comics series. That said, I'm personally more willing to give more slack to things that exist in the real world (e.g. comic series) more slack than things that don't (e.g. comic characters). - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 22:21, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, that seems a reasonable approach. Cheers. Hiding Talk 22:33, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Zeratul Speculation

While I understand the Kerrigan bit, why remove the DT Saga info? It's not OR or anything, the author herself hints that he might appear. In the interview she is asked if familiar heroes (the interviewer explicitly mentions Zeratul) will appear, and she replies "yes". The Clawed One 02:48, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

I'd suggest making that clearer, but go right ahead and replace that, then. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 02:49, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Ok, it's been reworded to more or less say "the author has said he may or may not appear" (in better wording, naturally). The Clawed One 02:54, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Hm. That begs the question, "Why mention it at all?" After all, Orgrim Doomhammer may or may not appear in the next StarCraft story. King Arthur may or may not appear in the next SC story. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 02:57, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

A troll, am I?

You brought out the "troll" card a lot more quickly than I'd imagine. What trollery is there? I'm simply trying to point out inconsistencies in your deletionist rhetoric, since you have proclaimed there are none. Would you infer otherwise? Or would you just label those who disagree with you to be "trolls" as so many deletionists have before?

For peer review, said "trollery" can be found here (for now). MalikCarr 05:27, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

You accused me of conspiring to get a whole class of articles deleted, as well as being part of a deletionist cabal. You were trolling for sympathy and attention.

I don't believe you are a troll; the bulk of your edits are good faith efforts to improve this encyclopedia.

Troll is both a noun and a verb. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 05:40, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Just because he makes an accusation toward you doesn't mean it's an act of trolling. A general rule of thumb is that it's only trolling if the accusation is false, and he knows it's false. The latter clearly does not apply here, and I don't know whether the former does. — Red XIV ^(talk) 06:52, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Trolling is doing something obnoxious for attention. Accusing people of being part of a conspiracy is obnoxious on Wikipedia. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 06:54, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

But just because an action is found to be obnoxious doesn't mean it was intended to annoy or anger. And intent is key to trolling. — Red XIV ^(talk) 07:05, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Being obnoxious isn't trolling; it's just being obnoxious. Trolling is being obnoxious to get attention, and since MalikCarr's stated purpose was a call to action to oppose an (imaginary) cabal, and I assume that was what he meant to do.

WP:AGF doesn't mean "assume everyone is nice and happy and good." AGF means, "If someone says they're doing something for a reason, believe them. If they don't say why they're doing it, assume it's to improve the encyclopedia as long as possible." - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 07:09, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

AMIB, you have never assume good faith with anyone, ever. - NeutralHomer ^T:C 07:18, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Do I know you? - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 07:20, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, ya do and I am just stating facts. - NeutralHomer ^T:C 16:18, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

You used to know him as User:Orangemonster2k1 aka SVRTVDude. He "retired" but returned under a different name. He may have changed his name, but, as you can see, not his sparkling personality. --Calton | Talk 16:50, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

I was wondering when you were going to show up. And my sparkling personality. Mr. Pot meet Mr. Kettle. - NeutralHomer ^T:C 16:52, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

It's called "providing information", Buckwheat -- the identity you first tried to hide when you returned before your self-control problems almost immediately manifested themselves again. And I only "show up" when your monthly conniption fit crosses my particular radar screen -- such as your most recent lack of understanding, regarding Days of the year standards on September 1. --Calton | Talk 17:18, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Tried to hide? I never tried to hide that I am SVRTVDude. In fact, I have it posted on my userpage. But speaking of self-control, of your edits today, 4 of the 8 have been about me? Now, what is that about self control? If you are a more important editor than I am (or so your claim) you should also be a more mature editor and have better self-control than I have. With my "conniptions" every month, you should be able to easily avoid them. So, where is that self-control I keep hearing soooo much about, hmm? - NeutralHomer ^T:C 17:24, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Oh. 'Sup? I don't recall ever even accusing you of anything; you want a bunch of non-free images because they were relevant to the articles, but I had to remove them because we couldn't use them. The problem was that you were making a good-faith effort to improve the encyclopedia that conflicted with fair-use policy. If you hadn't wanted to improve the articles, there never would have been a problem. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 01:11, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Yeah...and even though I didn't agree, I understood that it could be bad if someone decided to sue Wiki. I have actually removed other fair-use images (see the AMS and NWA seals) just this past week. So, I am trying:) - NeutralHomer ^T:C 02:26, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Oh, fuck me, I'm dumb. This is all about Malik linking a whole bunch of other problematic articles and telling me to go work on those (with the implied message to stay the hell away from his articles), not me removing his similarly obnoxious post from WT:GUNDAM.

It's a common refrain; "these other articles are also bad, so why don't you go work on them instead?" The answer is, usually, "Because I don't care about those articles' subjects," and I deleted it as trolling because it was highly obnoxious and I don't really feel like dealing with a needlessly antagonistic and accusing message on my talk page. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 07:20, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

But you didn't remove his comment from just YOUR talk page. You removed it from the WP:GUNDAM page against WP:VAND. You should know better. And as an admin, you should know better than making personal attacks in your edit summaries. Kyaa the Catlord 07:28, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

I removed it as unconstructive trolling (and as it was being obnoxious for attention, it was trolling), as I've done on many talk pages. As many admins and users in good standing do on many pages. Being civil is also policy. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 07:31, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Pot -> kettle. Kyaa the Catlord 07:33, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Diffs or go away, please. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 07:34, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Fair use image size

You might want to read WP:FUC #3b more carefully before citing it. It doesn't, as you seem to believe, say that the image has to be the same size in the Image: namespace as in the article where it's used. It just says that the Image: namespace version shouldn't be high-resolution. And the notion that 400x400px is high resolution is just silly. — Red XIV ^(talk) 07:22, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

There is no reason whatsoever to keep a copy of a non-free image at a higher resolution than is used in the article. The only reason we have non-free images is to use them in articles. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 07:25, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

That's not policy, that's your personal preference. But if it's so important to you, why not upload the lower resolution images yourself? — Red XIV ^(talk) 07:27, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

The policy enforced minimal use, including the lowest practical resolution. I don't downscale them because I lack the means on my laptop.

{{fairusereduce}}, unlike the other templates, is a "fix it when you get around to it" template, not a "resolve this or the image will be deleted." A number of users go through the queue and take care of such images, so there's no need for you to worry about it if you don't want to. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 07:29, 1 July 2007 (UTC)