Template talk:Cite wikisource

Icons

The WP:NOICONS guideline says that icons should not be used in article prose (as opposed to tables and infoboxes). None of our readers are going to recognize the Wikisource icon anyway, so for most people it will just be a strange blue splotch in the middle of their references. We don't use icons for any other reference sources, so I don't see why we need to use them here. The template output already says "via Wikisource", so the icons don't add any information. Can we please remove them from the template? Kaldari (talk) 15:33, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

I'll just cc Trappist the monk as an FYI. --Izno (talk) 00:30, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

Icons have been part of this template since the beginning (October 2006) – I know, just because it's always been this way ... When I updated this template, I retained the icons because that is how it was before the update and I saw no reason to change nor was I interested in the squabble that might occur were I to have removed the icons; I did move them around a bit.

I can see that there is a use for them, Wikisource and Wikipedia links are so similarly colored that for me and perhaps others, distinguishing which is an en.wiki internal link isn't easy. So, to avoid astonishing our readers, the icons are handy.

This discussion has caused me to discover a bug in Module:Citation/CS1. These two {{cite wikisource}} templates should render with the Wikisource icons; they don't:

• Sense and Sensibility  – via Wikisource.
• Wells, H. G. (9 August 1918). "Heroic Airmen Are Key To Victory" . Daily Mail – via Wikisource.

The problem is that the template creates an interwiki link [[s:Sense and Sensibility|Sense and Sensibility]] that the cs1|2 module wraps in italic markup. The module must strip the interwiki markup and create a url to the Wikisource article so that it can apply the icon. The italic (and quote) markup prevents is_wikilink() from recognizing that the interwikilink is an interwikilink. I have patched this in the module sandbox:

• Sense and Sensibility  – via Wikisource.
• Wells, H. G. (9 August 1918). "Heroic Airmen Are Key To Victory" . Daily Mail – via Wikisource.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 18:23, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

If the icon is retained, perhaps a simplified 2- or 3-tone version could be used that is easier to see at that size? T.Shafee(Evo&Evo)^talk 09:04, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

• Comment. WP:NOICONS only applies to article prose (which references and such are clearly not). –MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 15:56, 11 March 2020 (UTC)

  Per my comment, I'm marking this request as answered. At the very least, additional consensus is required before such a change should be introduced. –MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 15:58, 11 March 2020 (UTC)

Lost apostrophe

<ref>{{cite wikisource |title=Gentleman's Magazine |chapter=Letter from Dr Lettsom |wslink=Gentleman's Magazine/1780/06 |last=Lettsom |first=John Coakley |authorlink=John Coakley Lettsom |date=June 1780 }}</ref>

renders as:

Lettsom, John Coakley (June 1780). "Letter from Dr Lettsom" . Gentleman's Magazine  – via Wikisource.

losing the apostrophe in the title of the magazine in both rendered text and Wikisource link. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:03, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Help talk:Citation Style 1/Archive 72 § Apostrophes are stripped from titles

—Trappist the monk (talk) 13:28, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Thank you. That reports the issue as fixed on 29 October. As can be seen above, it is still - at the time of writing - occurring. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 13:37, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Next module suite update.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 13:40, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Multiple scan pages?

At Fong Foo Sec, I'm trying to use this template, but the |scan= parameter doesn't seem to be able to hold a link to multiple scan pages for entries that stretch across more than one page. Could this be handled? Cheers, {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 23:51, 25 January 2022 (UTC)

Problems using plainchapter= without chapter=

Currently, if you have |plainchapter= but no |chapter= (or |contribution=) set, then it ignores the |plainchapter= parameter. In order to get around this, you can set the |chapter= with no content (e.g. at The Literary Magnet), but this is not a great workaround. It would be better to allow |plainchapter= to show up, regardless of whether |chapter= or |contribution= has been set.

I've made an edit that will fix this in the template sandbox (diff): please can someone make this edit to the template? ‑‑Yodin^T 14:29, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

 Completed. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. ^put'r there 21:14, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

Thanks! ‑‑Yodin^T 21:17, 17 September 2022 (UTC)

my pleasure! Paine  21:30, 17 September 2022 (UTC)