Template:Did you know nominations/The Bomber Mafia

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The result was: promoted by Desertarun (talk) 19:51, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

The Bomber Mafia

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... that Malcolm Gladwell devoted four episodes of his podcast Revisionist History to air power in World War II before writing The Bomber Mafia? Source: [1]
- ALT1:... that Thomas E. Ricks called Malcolm Gladwell's The Bomber Mafia "a conversational work"? Source: [2]
- ALT2:... that Malcolm Gladwell's The Bomber Mafia began as an audiobook before it transitioned to a print book? Source: Gladwell 2021, p. 209
- ALT3:... that military historian Saul David called Malcolm Gladwell's The Bomber Mafia "error prone" and "bedevilled by the same oversimplification of the world into a single Big Idea that is characteristic of his other work"? 1
- ALT4:... that in a review for Malcolm Gladwell's The Bomber Mafia, The Washington Post had to issue a correction based on information a reviewer relayed to her readers from the book? [3]
- ALT5:... that Malcolm Gladwell's The Bomber Mafia, about the Bomber Mafia of World War II, concludes that "LeMay won the battle. [...] Hansell won the war" with regard to high-precision aerial bombing? Gladwell 2021, p. 206

Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Bernie Willock

5x expanded by Therapyisgood (talk) and Kchishol1970 (talk). Nominated by Therapyisgood (talk) at 21:29, 7 May 2021 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy compliance:

Adequate sourcing: - Does not meet inline citation requirements (the exception is fiction works can have plot that's verifiable to the original, but not nonfiction works). You can fix this by adding inline citations with page numbers in the book where the points are supported.
Neutral:
Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook eligibility:

Cited: - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
Interesting: - I don't really see how either of the hooks is that interesting. "Conversational" is typical for popular history works. It's not surprising that he would discuss on his podcast and then publish a book

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Needs some changes before this is eligible for DYK (t · c) buidhe 08:31, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

@Buidhe: The article has been sourced. I've added an alt hook. Aside from the alt-hook I added, do you have anything different to suggest? Is the new alt hook OK now? Therapyisgood (talk) 18:38, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

Sorry, I don't think ALT2 meets the requirements. I think you'd be better off trying to quote one of the reviewers who make bold claims. (t · c) buidhe 18:42, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

New one added w/quote. Therapyisgood (talk) 18:51, 29 May 2021 (UTC)

Therapyisgood, ALT3 runs 217 prose characters, well above the 200-character maximum, so I've struck it. Can you please propose something shorter? Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:35, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

@BlueMoonset: added another. Therapyisgood (talk) 18:20, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

Pinging buidhe to see whether this hook meets her approval. BlueMoonset (talk) 18:46, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

Not sure... it's a bit convoluted and I'm not 100% sure what it's trying to say. I think you might be better off trying to summarize the book's core argument in a hook, since it is somewhat revisionist and is more likely to be interesting than more obscure details about the book. (t · c) buidhe 18:49, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

@Buidhe:, @BlueMoonset: another alt added. Therapyisgood (talk) 11:52, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

Approving ALT5. (t · c) buidhe 18:50, 16 June 2021 (UTC)