Template:Did you know nominations/NASCAR Grand National East Series
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The result was: promoted by Carabinieri (talk) 21:57, 13 May 2012 (UTC)
NASCAR Grand National East Series[edit]
- ... that Soapy Castles and Tiny Lund were the only drivers ever to win the NASCAR Grand National East Series season championship?
- Reviewed: Hakea dohertyi
Created/expanded by The Bushranger (talk). Self nom at 06:10, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
New enough and long enough at the time of nomination. Article is fully supported by inline citations. No images to copyright check. Hook is properly formatted. QPQ done.
Offline sources are not plagiarised and support facts in article.
Article says "Over the series' two seasons, the majority of winners of its events were Winston Cup series regulars; Neil "Soapy" Castles won the 1972 Grand National East Series championship, winning two of the series' 15 races; Tiny Lund was the 1973 champion of the series, scoring five wins in 15 events." This is not what the hook really says. The article suggests, the way it is worded, other people could have won. The article also doesn't make it clear how many versions of the race were actually held. Alt hook needs to be proposed. --LauraHale (talk) 10:04, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
Alt hook needed that is clearly supported by article text. --LauraHale (talk) 10:04, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
- Er, I believe there's a misunderstanding here. Multiple drivers - a total of eleven, in fact - won races in the Grand National East Series. However, only Lund and Castles won the series championship - by amassing the most points over the course of the season - which is what the reference and hook both clearly say. I've added the word "season" to the hook though. - The Bushranger One ping only 14:08, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
- Can you quote the EXACT text of the article supporting this hook? Because I cannot find it in the article and still completely confused by it. --LauraHale (talk) 08:32, 13 May 2012 (UTC)
- Sure. :) Article:
Neil "Soapy" Castles won the 1972 Grand National East Series championship...Tiny Lund was the 1973 champion of the series.
- Sure. :) Article:
- Can you quote the EXACT text of the article supporting this hook? Because I cannot find it in the article and still completely confused by it. --LauraHale (talk) 08:32, 13 May 2012 (UTC)
- Er, I believe there's a misunderstanding here. Multiple drivers - a total of eleven, in fact - won races in the Grand National East Series. However, only Lund and Castles won the series championship - by amassing the most points over the course of the season - which is what the reference and hook both clearly say. I've added the word "season" to the hook though. - The Bushranger One ping only 14:08, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
- And the source:
- The Bushranger One ping only 11:15, 13 May 2012 (UTC)NASCAR inagurated the Grand National East Series in 1972 to provide races for the short tracks. Two years later, the short-track division for Winston Cup cars folded...Neil Castles won the '72 championship while Tiny Lund captured the '73 title.
— "NASCAR Chronicle" by Greg Fielden, page 238
- And the source:
After much reading and re-reading, hook appears to be supported by text as "Grand National East Series would only last two seasons before being abandoned by NASCAR." suggests two years. Just wasn't spelled out as clearly as my brain needed it to be in order to get the point. --LauraHale (talk) 21:11, 13 May 2012 (UTC)