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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:48, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

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Elizabeth Paston[edit]

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  • ... that Elizabeth Paston married twice; her first husband died in battle fighting for the House of York, her second was beheaded for treason against it, and she never married again? Source: First marriage, Davis, N., ed., The Paston Letters and Papers of the Fifteenth Century, Vol.I (Oxford, 1971), lvi; his death, Fleming, P., "Poynings, Michael" ODNB (online ed., 2004); her second marriage, Richmond, C., The Paston family in the fifteenth century: Fastolf's will (Cambridge, 1996), 233; his rebellion and death, Driver, J.T., 'The Kentish origins and connections of Sir George Brown', Archaeologia Cantiana 131 (2011), 76; her subsequent widowhood, Castor, H., Blood & Roses: The Paston Family in the Fifteenth Century (London, 2005), 291.

Created by Davisqmw (talk). Nominated by Serial Number 54129 (talk) at 10:20, 4 April 2018 (UTC).

  • GTG. New, long, neutral enuf. Nice article. Agf on hook facts, to very strong refs. Earwig only pics up library catalogues. Johnbod (talk) 01:00, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
  • Hi, I came by to promote this, and formatted all the refs using Help:Shortened footnotes. However, in looking up the books on Google Books, I could not find earlier listings with these publication dates. Are the years of publication correct? Also note that footnote 12 is incorrectly formatted. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 23:18, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
  • Thank you for this, Yoninah. So, we've established that you "formatted all the refs" but that "footnote 12 is incorrectly formatted"...they are a number of possible replies to that. Secondly, if you wish specific issues addressed, please make specific proposals; vague suggestions that there may be "some dates wot might be wrong" are insufficient. Many thanks, and happy editing! —SerialNumber54129 paranoia /cheap sh*t room 07:09, 19 April 2018 (UTC)
Yes, what exactly is the problem? Taking the first one, - the google page notes: "Parts I and II of Paston Letters and Papers of the Fifteenth Century, edited by Norman Davis, were originally published by the Clarendon Press in 1971 and 1976, and were reissued with corrections by EETS in 2004." Google books is not the best place to check this sort of thing. Try OCLC maybe. Per WP:CITEVAR you should not do undiscussed drive-by changes of citation style. I'd have reverted this if it was one of my articles, Johnbod (talk) 09:46, 19 April 2018 (UTC)
Johnbod well, thank you for nothing. The referencing section looked completely amateurish with the same books being cited in full over and over again, and one author's name reversed (it's Colin Richmond, not Richmond Colin). And what snarky comment are you trying to make, Serial Number 54129? I couldn't format footnote 12 because it wouldn't open for me. Yoninah (talk) 12:40, 19 April 2018 (UTC)
At least the author knew how to work the old references. As a new Wikipedian he will probably be completely thrown by the sfn auto refs you've added, which is a pity as you are querying some of the info. I have sorted ref 12 anyway; it's ODNB, though the link is to a private uni site. Johnbod (talk) 12:47, 19 April 2018 (UTC)
  • Still GTG. Query resolved (I dare say User:Yoninah's cite-banditry will stand). Johnbod (talk) 13:02, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
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