Talk:Young Communist League USA

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The sentance "It should not be confused with its British counterpart, also called the Young Communist League." was a useless sentence. There are other YCLs out there (in Canada, in Germany, etc.), yet there was no "This should not be confused with such and such of Germany". Then again, even if there were only to YCLs, considering that this one has "of the United States" in its name, I don't think anyone could get confused. Furthermore, the two leagues are related, both being descendants of Young Communist International Leagues. ~

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BetacommandBot (talk) 03:08, 12 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Young Worker's League[edit]

I understand that the YCL and YWL were "sister organizations," and were at one time only different in the sense that one was at one time underground (YCL), and the other public and "legal" (YWL). My question is: Is there any research out there, or people knowledgeable in this history, to flesh out just a little bit more detail about the YWL? The internal wiki link brings you automatically back to the YCL page. Any thoughts on working on specifically YWL material? --Dialecticas (talk) 02:49, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This does need to be fleshed out. In brief, the YWL corresponded to the Workers Party of America, the overground "legal political party" established by the underground Communist Party of America in the last days of 1921. A parallel underground YCL remained in existence. The WPA and YWL grew rapidly in their first months of existence, boosted by the addition of the fairly huge Finnish Federation as well as their superior ability to hold open meetings and gain new members. Although the underground CPA/YCL were initially conceived as directing centers which would pull the puppet strings of the overground organizations, in practice both of these organizations were cumbersome and superfluous and they atrophied and died. The underground, parallel CPA went out with a whimper early in 1923 and the underground, parallel YCL with it.
Over the years the name of the organization changed—first to Young Workers (Communist) League of America, circa 1925, to parallel the change of name of the adult party to Workers (Communist) Party of America; then finally to Young Communist League circa 1929, again matching a change of name of the adult party.
Carrite (talk) 18:56, 23 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Claims about expanding membership--Citations needed[edit]

There are a number of statements claiming the YCL's membership has greatly expanded in recent years, but I can see no references, not even to primary sources. I think these statements need to be backed up by reliable secondary sources, because these claims are likely to be quite controversial. --Beneficii (talk) 10:35, 1 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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YCL USA reformed[edit]

This article mentions that in 2019 the CPUSA proposed reforming the YCL. I believe this has now happened, the website is back up and running and YCL USA members have spoken at events. Extua (talk) 16:33, 14 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

As YCL is obviously still or again alive, the article should be updated – especially the introduction. As I am far off in Europe, someone elses (Your ?) task. AVS (talk) 06:11, 15 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Clarify "ideological shifts towards the right"[edit]

In the intro section, the final paragraph states:

"Although independent, in its final years the organization came under direct control of the CPUSA. After a backlash by members towards the suspension of elections and ideological shifts towards the right, membership plummeted." (emphasis added)

Specifically, is this statement trying to claim the shift towards the right came from:

  • a critical mass of CPUSA members, encouraging other members to leave for greener (or rather, redder) fields
  • the CPUSA leadership/party itself, likewise encouraging members to leave
  • society as a whole, which in turns affects new party membership rates
  • or some combination of the above?

The closest reference link doesn't mention anything about this, and nothing else in the intro is mentioned to add extra context to this statement. The article does explains some general overall shifts to the right in society, but even then it doesn't say anything about that being an "ideological shifts towards the right". In fact, it seems to imply the reverse, with how Republican George W Bush was replaced with Democrat Barack Obama; Democrats may be more right relative to the CPUSA, but definitely left relative to Republicans. In any case, these "ideological shifts towards the right" that killed the YCL is vague at best. So clarification would be appreciated. Thanks! -- 66.60.148.2 (talk) 17:10, 13 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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