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I find here that Yemark was not a cossack but the leader of a Kazak Tribe.--87.30.6.163 08:18, 2 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like some sort of a Turkish nationalist website. They'd claim that the Finns and the Japanese are Turkic. --194.72.81.141 (talk) 17:44, 29 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I find that Yermak should have bigger article about him!

Yermak's name[edit]

According to "Yermak's Campaign in Siberia", Hakluyt Society, 1975, Yermak is a nick name and not a real name. Yermak's full name should be Vasily Timofeyevich Alenin, son of Timofey Afonasievich Alenin and grandson of Afonasiy Grigoryevich Alenin. The source cannot be cross checked, but it is likely to be right. Ref. page 11. —Preceding unsigned comment added by JensAlstrup (talk • contribs) 17:54, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Gregorian calendar[edit]

The year 1582 was the switch from the Julian to the Gregorian calendar. Are the dates Old Style (Julian) or New Style (Gregorian)? GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 05:31, 7 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Unsubstantiated theses[edit]

Wow, this is some unsubstantiated bullshit. It is not backed up by any credible sources of information. Only one leading at all to another text. In the 3rd century, with all the desire of the Cossacks, the Byzantines could not describe. The word "Cossack" is of Turkic origin and means a free nomad, a free person[1]. As V. V. Bartold writes, it was originally applied to a person who, alone or with his family[25], separated from his state, clan and was forced to independently seek means of support in the steppe[25], “to lead the life of an adventurer”. Cossacks could be called subjects dissatisfied with the ruler (khan, prince, king, tsar) who left for another place, and the ruler himself, who was defeated and left with a small group of supporters [Comm 3]. The name of the Kazakh people has the same etymology[26]. In fact, these are people who switched to a nomadic or semi-nomadic way of life outside or on the borders of the state. Ermak Timofeevich and many Cossacks were formed as the defenders of the borders from the Turkic (nomadic) peoples on the outskirts of Russia. (Ukraine - means the edge, the border of something, most likely the state) under Ivan 4 (the Terrible), the Cossacks began to officially serve the state, and it was then that the Cossacks began to colonize Siberia and protect the south and east of Russia from the Turks. Cowalsky (talk) 22:24, 10 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]