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Name

....does the name has a meaning or it is just a place?

The name of the institute means Hand (Yad) and Name (va-Shem), it is derived from an Old Test. passage —.("ונתתי להם בביתי ובחומותי יד ושם" (ישעיהו, נ"ו, ה." El_C

Yad means memory in this case.
Memorial is a more appropriate translation. Everybody, please sign your posts with four tildes ~~~~ so that we know who you are and when you contributed. Thanks. Rudy Breteler (talk) 23:35, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Article in need of revision

This article is in need of revision and expansion. It almost appears to be a partial trsnlation from Hebrew Wikipedia's יד ושם, which is also in need of significant rev./exp. I'll see if I can return to this article later tonight. El_C

This article also needs a clarification of events concerning Deir Yassin in connection to the construction of "The Valley of the Communities"-exhibition. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.49.7.210 (talk) 11:47, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Hebrew "translation"

From the article: "In Hebrew, "a memorial and a name" translates as yad va-shem."

Presumably yad vashem was the original Hebrew in Isaiah, not a translation?

Guan 07:14, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Not All Victims

I clarified "victims" to "Jewish victims", since Yad Vashem is a Jewish holocaust memorial, not a memorial for all victims of the holocaust (according to its own mission statement).

Although many people use the term "holocaust" specifically to refer to the mass murder of Jews by the Nazis, in common usage, the term often has a broader meaning. Furthermore, there are non-Jewish "holocaust memorials", like the gay holocaust memorial in Berlin.

(Note that "Goals and Discussion" already talked about "Jewish victims of the holocaust".) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.190.7.50 (talk) 08:05, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

You're right. I was there on a Taglit trip recently, and several people noticed that there is practically zero mention that non-Jews were killed in the holocaust. There is one exhibit (detailing each of the Nazis directly responsible for the Final Solution) that mentions one Nazi took a particular interest in rounding up Gypsies, that's the only mention. I'm not saying this to criticize the museum, just to emphasize that it is an important point -- that the museum is intended only for Jewish victims. 81.1.92.43 (talk) 19:26, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
Well, someone must have reverted you, because the article again reads that it is for the victims of the holocaust. So I guess the term "holocaust" as used on this page is not supposed to include any of the 11 million non-Jew victims of systematized killing by the National Socialists, and which included ethnic Poles, Gypsies, homosexuals, etc. XavierItzm (talk) 07:48, 29 January 2018 (UTC)

Layout section edit needed

"The museum is designed so the visitor begins above underground..." This is contradictory and can't be right. Should the text say "begins above ground" or "begins underground" - or something else? Hertz1888 (talk) 20:48, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Pius XII caption

The article should mention the controversy over the Pius XII caption. It has caused big problems in Israel-Vatican relations. ADM (talk) 23:33, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

"Recent History" reads like a trashy gossip magazine

It should be removed. A simple sentence in the introduction to name some of the world leaders who have visited Yad Vashem would be fine, but a list of gaffes is not encyclopedic material. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pioneeranomoly (talk • contribs) 15:01, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

Agree. The section needs lots of pruning.--brewcrewer (yada, yada) 15:03, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

Mount of Remembrance

it is the western area of Mount Herzl, and beside him. פארוק (talk) 21:27, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

The ground of the building

Don't remove "The ground of the building". If anyone has a remark or a suggestion, let’s talk here. Thanks!

Passing.Stranger (talk) 11:14, 10 November 2012 (UTC)

Hi Passing Stranger. Thanks for your attempts to improve this article but it seems you have misread the text. The Haaretz article does not say that Yad Vashem was built on Palestinian villages. It says that the remains of a village can be seen from there.--Geewhiz (talk) 07:52, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
Shalom! Ok... but what about the firing of Itamar Shapira? Do you think that’s irrelevant too? --Passing.Stranger (talk) 17:33, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
Definitely UNDUE. Yad Vashem employs hundreds of people and the fact that one lost his job, for whatever the reason, may be fine for a newspaper looking for sensationalism, but not for an encyclopedia article--Geewhiz (talk) 21:37, 26 December 2012 (UTC).

Wrong date!

The founding date of The International School for Holocaust Studies at Yad Vashem in the article is wrong! It says 1933, which is not only impossible, but also a dangerous mistake ecouraging holocaust deniers and conspiracy theorists around the world.

I will change it to 1993, which is the date from the link in the attached footnote: http://yadvashem.macam.ac.il/is/en/

Please avoid careless mistakes like this and keep on the good work — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.131.255.214 (talk) 13:15, 7 January 2013 (UTC)


--> re: certainly. thanks for checking. But i'd like to strongly encourage you NOT to edit as"anonymous" user from IP but i'd like to encourage you to register and do further edits as registered Wikipedian. It's really nice. Try it :) --Lantuszka (talk) 00:37, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

Golden key?

The list of honors of Ben Abraham lists here Chave de Ouro, Museu Yad Vashem, Israel, 1978. "Chave de Ouro" is translated as "Golden Key" in English and Polish wikipedias. Unfortunately I failed to google the term. Does anybody have an idea what's this and whether a wikipedia article is due? Staszek Lem (talk) 00:19, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

A reply to your query,

The Brazilian Portuguese phrase Chave de Ouro, Museu Yad Vashem, Israel, 1978 means "Key of Gold, Yad Vashem Museum, Israel, 1978". Chave de Ouro translates to English as "Key of Gold" and as "Golden Key", which is an award conferred upon Mr Abraham, by the Yad Vashem Museum, in 1978. Either form is correct; the usage difference is stylisc.

50.9.48.58 (talk) 01:20, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, this was not my question. My question was: "What is this?", not "What is it called?". Staszek Lem (talk) 04:43, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
P.S. Also, in wikipedia, quastions are asked not out of idle personal curiosity, but to improve the content of wikipedia. In this particular case I even specifically asked whether there is something we can add into wikipedia. And if yes, we have to have references from reliable sources (Which I unfortunately failed to find. And part of the reason, I suspect, Yad Vashem did not write their award in Portuguese, so, again, what the heck was that? I am dying of curiosity! (joking) Staszek Lem (talk)

Hello, Jews! Nu? Staszek Lem (talk) 22:23, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

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etymology

The name "Yad Vashem" is taken from a verse in the Book of Isaiah: "To them I will give within my temple and its walls a memorial and a name better than sons and daughters; I will give them an everlasting name that will endure forever" (Isaiah 56:5).

It would be nice if the text were to say somewhere which words of this verse translate yad vashem. —Tamfang (talk) 06:39, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

added literal meaning there so it will be more obvious. It is even more obvious in the Hebrew: "וְנָתַתִּי לָהֶם בְּבֵיתִי וּבְחוֹמֹתַי יָד וָשֵׁם, טוֹב מִבָּנִים וּמִבָּנוֹת; שֵׁם עוֹלָם אֶתֶּן לוֹ, אֲשֶׁר לֹא יִכָּרֵת. ". Icewhiz (talk) 14:42, 27 August 2019 (UTC)

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