Talk:Wing leader

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Did a quick tidy, rv as desired. Keith-264 (talk) 15:23, 22 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, tks for that, especially the right link for Johnson... Tweaked a couple of things per my edit summary. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 23:06, 22 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

28–29 isn't an average, 281⁄2 is and as far as I know, a date range is from X to X+, you can't be in two years simultaneously, in 1944 and 1945 perhaps....Keith-264 (talk) 01:16, 23 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I tend to agree with your definition of an average, but I'm also wary about trying to outsmart the sources, and the way the article has it now is how the source puts it. As for "in 1944-45", I've seen that sort of expression in several sources and have used it in articles that have gone through extensive review, as shorthand for "in the years 1944 to/and 1945". Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 07:28, 24 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Commonwealth[edit]

Question about the term being in "Commonwealth" use: RAF, RNAS and RAAF use is documented. Are there any sources showing, e.g. usage in the RCAF, RNZAF or South African AF? Or usage in the Mediterranean or CBI Theaters? --Lineagegeek (talk) 20:22, 24 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, in adding "Commonwealth" to the lead I wasn't trying to suggest that all members used the role, just that we weren't talking here about any non-Commonwealth forces. I'm not an expert on the services you mention but I'd be a bit surprised if the RNZAF had enough fighter squadrons in one place to constitute a wing, probably the SAAF likewise (happy to be proved wrong). The RCAF had a bomber group in Europe and it looks like it had fighter wings too, so will see if I can find out if any had wing leaders. Worst case, we could perhaps alter to "some Commonwealth" to hedge our bets. Also, I did mention a couple of RAF wing leaders in the Mediterranean, not sure about the CBI... Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 23:21, 24 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, that didn't take long -- noted Johnnie Johnson's command of No. 144 (RCAF) Wing. I hadn't searched for wing leaders who belonged to the RCAF as this is really supposed to be a definition and brief history of the position, not an exhaustive list of position holders, but I could probably find a way to drop the names of some RCAF and RNZAF members who held the role if you think that helps. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 23:55, 24 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]