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A fact from William Williams (printer and publisher) appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 6 May 2022 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that William Williams was a newspaper publisher who volunteered for service during the War of 1812 and advanced to the rank of colonel?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2022/May. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/William Williams (printer and publisher).

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DYK nomination[edit]

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The result was: promoted by Bruxton (talk) 21:51, 25 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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William Williams
1758 – 1850

... that William Williams was a newspaper publisher who volunteered for service during the War of 1812 and advanced to the rank of colonel? — Sources: Stern, 1951, p. 3; Bagg, 1892, p. 77
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Book of Common Prayer (1962)
- Comment: Statement and sources supporting hook can be found in the last paragraph of the War of 1812 section

Created by Gwillhickers (talk). Self-nominated at 23:29, 26 March 2022 (UTC).[reply]

New article that was created on 25 March 2022‎‎ is 4,411 characters and nominated one day later. No copyvios detected (AGF all refs re. any close paraphrasing issues, since none can go through Dup detector). Article is well-sourced. Hook is 135 characters long (under 200 character max.) and is interesting. Refs 26 and 30 (verifying the hook) are reliable sources. QPQ done. Image is free and in the public domain. Looks good to go! —Bloom6132 (talk) 03:25, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Bloom6132: - Thanks for your prompt review. When I used Earwigs Copyvio Detector the sources used, all of which have url addresses, including Stern, 1951, and Bagg, 1892, worked for me. In any case, let me assure you that any similarities in text only involve names and titles, and a couple of short general phrases. Appreciate the AGF in any case. Once again , many thanks. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 17:31, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Gwillhickers: you're very welcome! I use both Earwig and WMFLabs Dup detector (the one immediately above Earwig in the DYK toolbox) when reviewing DYK noms. Unfortunately, I've been getting a 503 error for the past month when trying to use the latter. It wasn't significant with this nom, as there were only one source (the Utica Public Library ref) that could go through WMFLabs (which can't process PDF scans). —Bloom6132 (talk) 18:48, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- sorry to butt in again, but weren't there lots of colonels in the War of 1812? is this one because williams was a publisher? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/they) 23:08, 12 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Great find[edit]

@Animalparty: — Fantastic find!! Great image!! I searched far and wide for sources and it amazes me that the source (book) for Williams' portrait had repeatedly escaped me. Many many thanks. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 22:12, 27 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Gwillhickers: No problem! There may be more useful content in the source, a 1906 biography. Additionally, I can't seem to verify the references to William Williams at Appleton's Cyclopaedia of American Biography (1900), although Williams does have an entry in the 1915 edition. And lastly, there seems to be discrepancy regarding number of children: user-generated sources like Find a Grave, WikiTree, and WeRelate (which may not be reliable or accurate at all) suggest Williams had more children besides Robert Stanton and Samuel Wells. William Frederic Williams, D.D. (aka William Frederick Williams; father of Talcott Williams) is listed as a son here, and a 1904 encyclopedia entry for William Frederic mentions a brother Samuel Wells, a missionary in China. --Animalparty! (talk) 22:30, 27 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Animalparty: — Yes, I'm looking into the matter of Williams' children at this moment. One of his ~~sons~~ Grandsons, John Camp Williams, authored the book which you've presented, which has got me digging further into this area. Once again, many thanks. Any further light you can shed on matters is most welcomed. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 23:04, 27 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]