Talk:White-shoe firm/Archives/2015

DLA Piper

Does anyone really think DLA Piper, a verein firm with low productivity per lawyer is a white shoe firm? I am going to take it out. Feedback welcome of course. JustinReilly (talk) 20:11, 27 May 2014 (UTC)

LOL DLA Piper white shoe? It had its origins in three smallish, regional UK law firms and only grew through mergers in the past decade or so with similarly-smallish American counterparts. AlphaBet678 (talk) 07:03, 7 September 2014 (UTC)

Charmed Circle

As I understood it, the "White Shoe" term was synonymous with the Charmed Circle of Wall Street old genteel firms. This group was generally considered as including the following 7 firms:

Cadwalader Wickersham & Taft; Cravath Swaine & Moore; Davis Polk & Wardwell; Millbank Tweed Hadley & McCloy; Shearman & Sterling; Simpson Thacher & Bartlett; and Sullivan & Cromwell.

White & Case was often included in the group in the same way that Herbert Smith is often regarded as a member of the Magic Circle. However White & Case is considerably younger in its origins then the other Charmed Circle firms. Perhaps it might be worth including a paragraph noting the historical Charmed Circle firms?

Perhaps Choate Hall & Stewart should be added to this list?

I would also suggest adding Wilmer Cutler Pickering Hale & Dorr to the list of new firms.

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Wholenewlevelofcool (talk • contribs) 14:48, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Would dividing up the law firms by city (e.g. New York, Boston, Washington, etc.) and then by specific groupings (e.g. the Charmed Circle mentioned above) not provide more distilled information. As the other contributors have noted, each of the cities had specific hierarchies and cultures. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.26.57.220 (talk) 03:47, 26 October 2014 (UTC)