Talk:Whistler's Mother

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Why is a British painting an American icon? --Speedway 18:24, 23 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Because the artist is American.

Does an episode of a television show merit mention twice in this article, under a disambiguation notice and a reference to pop culture?

JNW 11:29, 23 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This has been explained to me by captainktainer, to whom I give thanks.

JNW 16:21, 23 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What is the source for the artist having pawned the painting? W.C. 19:54, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

References[edit]

This page has a referrence:

In the 2003 movie, Looney Tunes: Back in Action, Damian Drakes TVR Tuscan turns into a flying car when the codeword, 'Mother' is spoken.

Because I've never seen that movie, I don't see how that refers to Whistler's Mother. If anything, I'd call it an allusion to My Mother the Car.--174.70.117.125 (talk) 11:07, 5 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed I had the exact same thought just now. Needs more information or deleting. 138.253.198.138 (talk) 14:58, 18 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

And what about Mr Bean? Most of people associate this painting with ,,Bean: The Ultimate Disaster Movie". Please, add it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.22.218.208 (talk) 08:17, 3 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Here's the DIA reference link, someone else can put it in. ^[1] 173.183.208.8 (talk) 04:00, 1 July 2014 (UTC) Tachyon 173.183.208.8 (talk) 04:00, 1 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ http://www.dia.org/exhibitions/whistlersite/grey.htm

The Louvre[edit]

I recall the painting being in the Louvre's collection in 1983, and there is a footnote which supports that.
Perhaps the article could mention the previous residency there and the reason for the transfer to the Musée d'Orsay.
Varlaam (talk) 02:43, 21 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Bean movie relevance.[edit]

Should there really be an entire plot summary of a Mr. Bean movie in an encyclopedia article about an iconic painting? ColinClark (talk) 18:34, 7 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed the section is irrelevant trivia and should go...Modernist (talk) 19:45, 7 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I actually disagree. I think the painting being such an icon makes it even more relevant to popular culture. I'm sure even an independent article could be created about Whistler's Mother in popular culture as I'm sure there is scholarly documentation to back it up. I believe that the section could have been improved rather than completely removed. But, I don't have time to develop such an article. Perhaps someone else will have interest! I think it's fascinating to see iconic art appear in popular references - so 21st century! SarahStierch (talk) 19:19, 10 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

File:Whistlers Mother high res.jpg to appear as POTD[edit]

Hello! This is a note to let the editors of this article know that File:Whistlers Mother high res.jpg will be appearing as picture of the day on June 28, 2013. You can view and edit the POTD blurb at Template:POTD/2013-06-28. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page. Thanks! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:00, 12 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Picture of the day

Arrangement in Grey and Black No.1, better known as Whistler's Mother, is an 1871 oil-on-canvas painting by American artist James Abbott McNeill Whistler. It depicts the artist's mother, Anna McNeill, and was painted in London. The work, which measures 144.3 cm × 162.4 cm (56.8 in × 63.9 in), is now displayed at the Musée d'Orsay in Paris. It has been described as a Victorian Mona Lisa.Painting: James Abbott McNeill Whistler

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History[edit]

"Another story associated with the painting is that Whistler called upon his beautiful young neighbour, Helena Amelia Lindgren (1855-1931), of number 5, Lindsey Row, to sit in Anna's place when she grew too tired. Well into her old age, Helena talked of secretly modelling for Whistler, who was especially enamoured of her hands. According to a surviving letter of 1935 (now in the possession of Helena's great-great-great-grandson, David Charles Manners), Anna had first called on the Lindgrens to ask that Helena's older sister, Christina, be her stand-in. However, Christina's mother, Eliza Lyle née Warlters, forbade it. Ever a free spirit, Helena secretly offered herself instead and modeled for the portrait without her mother's knowledge."

Some mistake surely? If Helena L died in 1931, who wrote the "letter of 1935" and why would it be reliable evidence?

There are a number of statements without citation in the "History" section, including this one. I know almost nothing about this subject so I don't want to change anything myself. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Newburyjohn (talk • contribs) 10:46, 10 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Re: de Young[edit]

From May 22 to September 6, 2010, it was shown at the M. H. de Young Memorial Museum in San Francisco

This should be easy to source. I’m pretty sure I was at the de Young, which is where I saw it. Viriditas (talk) 00:06, 22 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Viriditas (talk) 00:17, 22 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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