Talk:Visual anthropology

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Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment[edit]

This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 21 January 2020 and 3 May 2020. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Siffat05.

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Additions and minor changes[edit]

Additions and minor changes:

  1. added notable films section; obviously very incomplete. I was hoping that this would serve more as a list of notable and influential films (i.e., not someone's master's thesis, unless that was in fact influential and notable--but whatever, I'm not trying to boss anyone here).
  2. I relinked Gardner and Marshall because it is my hope that someone around here will find the time to write articles about them. Red links encourage that.
  3. I added to the history of the field. Obviously this could do with more detail and several decades are conspicuously missing. Ongoing developments in the present day would make a good addition at some point.

--Birdmessenger 19:36, 25 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Page on John Marshall[edit]

John Marshall was my step-father, so I should not create a page about him. I would be happy to see something written and I could supply photographs or other material. There are already a half dozen articles about him on various web sites.

-Chris Eliot (cre @ chriseliot dot com)

Cre 20:11, 25 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm very sorry that no one has responded, Chris (if they have not responded). I'll check. John Marshall should be listed primarily as a cultural anthropologist, and also as a visual anthropologist. There's lots to be said about him. --Levalley (talk) 06:11, 26 March 2009 (UTC)LeValley[reply]

two things[edit]

First, I'd like to cull the external links, especially links to personal sites. Any objections?

Secondly, I was thinking about switching the citation system to this[1] format. Anyone object? --Media anthro 13:05, 16 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  1. ^ citation

removed section on films[edit]

This list has grown ridiculously long and (self)-promotional in nature. I'm sorry, but most of these do not come even close to satisfying notability guidelines. Following WP:EL and WP:NOTE, I have deleted it.

Ethnographic and anthropological films

A chronology of representative anthropologically-minded films and filmmakers include:

--Newsroom hierarchies (talk) 18:01, 8 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

John Collier and Karl Heider don't appear to be on the list.Levalley (talk) 05:38, 26 March 2009 (UTC)LeValley[reply]

Visual anthropology doesn't mean the same thing as "making documentaries about culture"[edit]

Visual anthropology is the study of visual images of all kinds, and is as much about how to use the visual, in anthropology, as it is about any one particular medium, such as film making. While all the people mentioned in the list here are good documentarians, that's not enough - in my view - to make them visual anthropologists (at all).

Whereas Erving Goffman was doing visual anthropology and sociology. AFAIK, one of the earliest anthropologists to define visual anthropology as a field was John Collier (1967 - visual anthropology as research method). I'd be surprised to hear any anthropologist refer to Robert Flaherty as a "visual anthropologist" (or, really, as an "anthropologist," but I guess Wikipedians might find that an acceptable use of the professional title. He was never in any academic status as an anthropologist that I know about. Flaherty was a prospector, adventurer, a lover of Inuit people (literally and figuratively) and a very interesting man - but not an anthropologist. Just making a movie about another culture (or from another culture) doesn't make a person an anthropologist. Karl Heider was the first to write an introductory cultural anthropology textbook based on the principles and methods of visual anthropology (like frame analysis, proxemics, and so forth). Roland Barthes had a lot to say about parsing the visual, and all of semiotics might as well be listed here as some of the filmmakers that are mentioned.

At any rate, this article is mostly about documentary filmmaking and ethnographic film - not visual anthropology.Levalley (talk) 06:09, 26 March 2009 (UTC)LeValley[reply]

timeline of early visual representations[edit]

Since the study of visual representations is central to visual anthropology, I thought I'd put in a timeline of prehistoric hallmarks of visual representations, but I'm still struggling with formatting - need to learn to to a table! Here's the information:

800,000 Joseph Campbell notes that an Acheulian handax is made not for a practical reason, but in order to possess "divine, superfluous beauty"[1] 125,000BP Tally marks found on red ochre in South Africa, first jewelry (shell leis) from North Africa. 40-60,000BP Earliest form of stone art (cupolas) found in Australia 35,000BP Pictographs in Europe 28,000BP Early cave paintings in France and Ukraine, using three pigments. Representational drawings showing perspective found in North Africa 22,000BP Fired clay figurines begin to be abundant, depicting animals and women. Jewelry is sophisticated and abundant in France. 18-19,000BP Cave paintings make use of three dimensional space and flickering firelight to have a "moving picture" effect[2] 16-18,000BP Phalluses, decorated spear throwers, more three dimensional art appear in Europe. Scrimshaw found in northern Russia. A pictographic system (hieroglyphics) emerges in several regions 14-16,000BP Development of more pigment colors in Southern France, four pigments, including two forms of cooked or burnt ochre in use in France, Ukraine and Russia. 12,000BP Virtually every region of the world inhabited by humans has pictographs

I have citations. I just need to insert a table (I see how to do it now, will try and get to it in the next few days. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Levalley (talk • contribs) 15:50, 26 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Joseph Campbell, Mythos series.
  2. ^ Donald Johanson, In Search of Human Origins, Part 3
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