Talk:Visionaire

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I have categorized this page as requested by Category needed. If anyone has a more accurate category for this article, please feel free to add in the necessary details. --Siva1979Talk to me 19:56, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Some source search options. North America1000 03:20, 8 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 17 May 2017[edit]

Please remove the advertisement warning as this listing is factual and cited with proper sources. It has been edited to read with a neutral tone, yet this message has not been removed. 24.103.13.30 (talk) 15:27, 17 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: I disagree that the article is not promotional. The lead sentence states that Visionaire "curates art fashion luxury experiences". This is marketing jargon that means nothing to the casual reader. This is just one example; marketing/promotional jargon is spattered throughout the article. —KuyaBriBriTalk 16:24, 17 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]
The advertisement template is entirely appropriate, and the edit warring to remove it is exactly what caused the article to be protected. The article needs to be rolled back many months to remove the advertising. --jpgordon𝄢𝄆 𝄐𝄇 20:12, 19 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 19 May 2017[edit]

Please replace the section beginning with "Visionaire, under the directorship of Cecilia Dean…" to "Visionaire is an art, fashion, and luxury dedicated company which conceptualizes and produces films, public art installations, experiences, branded content, art multiples, and products under the directorship of Cecilia Dean and James Kaliardos. Visionaire was founded in 1991 as a platform for artists and photographers to present work that would have otherwise gone unseen. [1]

Visionaire’s issues have been described by The New York Times as “a publication that was neither fashion magazine nor art object but something in between,” [2] and are in the permanent collections of the Museum of Modern Art, NY; The New York Public Library; La Biblioteque Nationale de France, Paris; The Costume Institute at the MET; Victoria & Albert Museum, London; Beinecke Rare Book Library at Yale University, New Haven; Hyundai Card Design Library, Seoul; Instituto Tomie Ohtake, Sao Paulo, Brazil, along with private collectors.

Please replace the section beginning with "The multi-format art-and-fashion quarterly was founded by Stephen Gan..." to "Visionaire was founded by Stephen Gan, Cecilia Dean, and James Kaliardos in 1991 as a multi-format art-and-fashion quarterly. According to Gan, "Visionaire [was] really about a personal desire to do something. These are some of our friends who are artists' favorite images." [3]

Known for “toying with the boundaries of fashion and art” [4], Visionaire’s list of contributors has grown to include Steven Meisel, Mario Testino, Bruce Weber, Steven Klein, Inez & Vinoodh, John Baldessari, Mert & Marcus, Raf Simons, Alexander McQueen, Kate Moss, Gigi Hadid, Demna Gvasalia, Shirin Neshat, Yoko Ono, Vik Muniz, Maurizio Cattelan, and Marina Abramović, among many more. It is one of only two still remaining out of a 1994 Vanity Fair list of 10 "upstart" magazines to watch, alongside Surface.[5]"

Please replace the section beginning with "Visionaire was created by Stephen Gan, Cecilia Dean and James Kaliardos in a $950-a-month apartment that Gan and Kaliardos shared on West 11th Street..." to "Created in what Kaliardos now recalls as a $950-a-month apartment he shared with Gan on West 11th Street[6] and using $7,000 that Gan had saved up while working as a fashion editor at Details [7], the first issue of Visionaire, titled SPRING, launched as a portfolio of loose pages of different paper stocks in a limited edition of 1,000 numbered copies for $10 a copy[8].

Their efforts gained the attention of photographers and illustrators like Bruce Weber, Steven Meisel, Steven Klein, and Mats Gustafson, who soon began contributing their personal work to the publication themselves. As Visionaire continued to grow and use different formats, they launched more commercial magazines: V (1999), Vman (2003), and CR Fashion Book (2012) with Carine Roitfeld. In 2014, Gan, Dean, and Kaliardos parted ways[9]. Dean and Kaliardos began to focus on Visionaire's experimental concepts and pursued film & TV, public art, and special curatorial projects before signing with CAA (Creative Artists Agency) for development.

Please add in an infobox for this page.

Visionaire
CategoriesFashion, Art
PublisherVisionaire
FounderCecilia Dean, James Kaliardos, Stephen Gan
Founded1991
Based inNew York, United States
Websitehttp://www.visionaireworld.com
ISSN1071-5266

Kirstenchen (talk) 21:57, 19 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Kirstenchen, and thank you for your suggestions. Unfortunately, your proposed text is too promotional and does not adhere to Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy. Wikipedia is not a vehicle for advertising, marketing or public relations, but the purpose of your proposed text is clearly to win over prospective customers and investors. As such, it cannot be added to the article unless it is substantially rewritten. The most obvious red flags are phrases that are frequently used in press releases, but are not appropriate for an encyclopedia. This includes the cherry-picking of effusive quotes from newspapers when the same meaning of said quotes could have been conveyed in a neutral tone. Just as importantly, watch out for sentences that sound vaguely positive, but don't actually tell the reader anything specific. They should be condensed and written more tersely. Altamel (talk) 19:26, 21 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ "Visionaire". VFiles. Visionaire. Retrieved May 19, 2017.
  2. ^ Jacob Bernstein (August 27, 2014). "A Parting of the Ways at Visionaire". New York Times. Retrieved May 18, 2017.
  3. ^ Ethan Smith. "The Vision Thing". NYMag. Retrieved March 1, 2013.
  4. ^ Jacob Bernstein (August 27, 2014). "A Parting of the Ways at Visionaire". New York Times. Retrieved May 18, 2017.
  5. ^ Jennie Yabroff, Special to The Chronicle (November 28, 2004). "Beneath the Surface / San Francisco design zine, now 10, has spread influence far and wide and enjoyed a surge of interest for its innovative approach". SFGate. Retrieved March 1, 2013.
  6. ^ Jacob Bernstein (August 27, 2014). New York Times Parting of the Ways at Visionaire https://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/28/fashion/a-parting-of-the-ways-at-visionaire.htmltitle=A Parting of the Ways at Visionaire. Retrieved May 18, 2017. {{cite web}}: Check |url= value (help); Missing or empty |title= (help)
  7. ^ Jacob Bernstein (August 27, 2014). New York Times Parting of the Ways at Visionaire https://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/28/fashion/a-parting-of-the-ways-at-visionaire.htmltitle=A Parting of the Ways at Visionaire. Retrieved May 18, 2017. {{cite web}}: Check |url= value (help); Missing or empty |title= (help)
  8. ^ Jacob Bernstein (August 27, 2014). New York Times Parting of the Ways at Visionaire https://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/28/fashion/a-parting-of-the-ways-at-visionaire.htmltitle=A Parting of the Ways at Visionaire. Retrieved May 18, 2017. {{cite web}}: Check |url= value (help); Missing or empty |title= (help)
  9. ^ Jacob Bernstein (August 27, 2014). New York Times Parting of the Ways at Visionaire https://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/28/fashion/a-parting-of-the-ways-at-visionaire.htmltitle=A Parting of the Ways at Visionaire. Retrieved May 18, 2017. {{cite web}}: Check |url= value (help); Missing or empty |title= (help)
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