Talk:Vampire folklore by region

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"Ancient beliefs" paragraph contains seemingly contradictory language

The clauses "the term vampire did not exist" and "even the devil was considered synonymous with the vampire" appear, at first blush, to be contradictory. Perhaps I am misreading it, but the term "vampire", it seems to me, cannot both be non-existent in the minds of a particular group and, simultaneously, be considered synonymous with the term "devil" in the minds of that same group. Perhaps the idea that the author had in mind was to indicate the terms later became interchangeable, after the advent of the term vampire, or even that the term vampire did connote devilish qualities. (B Dubb B (talk) 09:00, 23 January 2019 (UTC))

Jewish section needs a complete rewrite

Before going ahead I wanted feedback. My problem with it, is that the surces used in it are not Jewish ones! Some examples of the portrayal of non-Jewish sources as Jewish ones:

The quoting of the "Testament of Solomon"- this is NOT part of the Jewish canon and has never been studied by Jews or part of Judaism

the myth of Lilith: The version of the myth here is from a 10th century book called the "Alef Bet of Ben Sirath". Again, this is NOT a Jewish book and has never been part of Judaism. On the contrary Jewish sources contemporary to it were very critical of it seeing it as 1) a work designed to shed suspicion on Jews and to portray them as demon worshippers and heretics or 2) a complete work of fiction with nothing in it of impoortance

Using documents found inside a copy of the Zohar in the Ritman library as being a Jewish source. While the Zohar is, the documents were inserted into the copy there- and the Ritman library is a CHRISTIAN-HERMETIC library. Considering this is the only source for those documents, it is most likely they are NOT Jewish in origin but from either a Christian or hermetic source. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Allonyoav (talk • contribs) 14:16, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

Vampires in Japan

The article says "Japan has no native legends about vampires". But obviously Yuki-onna is a negative vampire found in the folklore. (Refer the third paragraph under Behaviour) NisansaDdS (talk) 20:47, 25 December 2014 (UTC)

Hungary

The Radloff source cited is practically inaccessible, with no copies existing online, and is practically impossible to track down with the author being quoted as Vasili Vasilyevich Radlov (in worldcat)or Wilhelm Radloff in other citations (by Robert Lebling, but the original article doesn't exist any more) and by the historical context, that the guy in question was apparently german. If anyone has any copy of this i would much appreciate any access to it.

Also, this is contradicted by the Hungarian wiki page, where https://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Szendrey_Zsigmond s research mentions the introduction of vampires to be recent and the "Magyar Mythologia" book by Arnold Ipolyi from 1854, the author says that he doesn't know of the form or name of these creatures within the current hungarian people. https://play.google.com/books/reader?id=Ja2CYqcm7KoC&hl=en&pg=GBS.PA231

This could, however, simply mean that Radloff was simply aware of more than Ipolyi in 50 years earlier. N0B0DY-1MP0R7AN7 (talk) 19:35, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

This whole section appears to be based on the so called Codex Kassai, a manuscript that is supposed to be a sourcebook for the operations of the Inquisition in 13th-15th century Hungary - however this source is considered to be an invention of a 20th century Dominican, Jenő M. Fehér by virtually every historian who dealt with the topic. Imho this section should be removed or completely reworked. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Locassen (talk • contribs) 20:47, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

North/East Slavic Vampires

The article says that "Among the beliefs of the East Slavs, those of the northern regions (i.e. most of Russia) are unique in that their undead, while having many of the features of the vampires of other Slavic peoples, do not drink blood and do not bear a name derived from the common Slavic root for "vampire"."

As far as I can see, the earliest mention in Russian of a vampire is in the primary chronicle (1047), where a priest is called an "upyr likhiy" , or wicked vampire. Since the article doesn't say what these Slavs in fact called their vampires, I have to guess that they're talking about "Upyr", which at face, doesn't appear to be the same as "vampire".

If this is the case, the assertion is incorrect - upyr is from the Common Slavic root for vampire, "opiri" .

If this is not the case, the word being asserted as not related should be stated, so the statement can be evaluated. If it can't be defended, the statement should be removed or modified. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tpiatek360 (talk • contribs) 17:58, 7 October 2018 (UTC)

References

Vampire

I want to be vampire myself cyrus fernandes 106.220.236.227 (talk) 08:49, 5 April 2022 (UTC)

Upior section

This section looks like a very similar version (if not almost identical) to the Upior section. Seems like a waste to duplicate content that's already from another page into this GA page. Suggest to remove this recently added section. Danial Bass (talk) 21:58, 27 September 2023 (UTC)