Talk:Turki Al-Faisal

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Biography assessment rating comment[edit]

WikiProject Biography Summer 2007 Assessment Drive

The article may be improved by following the WikiProject Biography 11 easy steps to producing at least a B article. -- Yamara 21:34, 2 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Alleged Relationship with al-Qaeda[edit]

This information was interspersed throughout the biography, and made some vague and unsupported claims. I added a section for this controversy and tried to present a neutral account of his potential connections to al-Qaeda. Some sentences made interesting claims, but without a source they seemed like original research or an attempt to inject unfounded claims that may be contrary to a NPOV. I corrected claims where the linked sources provide specific sources for the claims, and deleted claims that seemed unsupported. Llachglin 20:11, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm glad you addressed this issue. Other such unsupported claims in the past led to successful lawsuits by Turki against those who made the allegations without documentation. Personally, I think such allegations are spurious, and deserve no place here. This is, after all, a man who has currently been spending a great deal of his time in Washington, D.C., where he maintains a connection with Georgetown University. This entire biography needs to be recrafted, with more attention to fact, and less to sensational claims that have been adequately rebutted elsewhere. Regards,MarmadukePercy (talk) 05:17, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Quotations[edit]

Someone has added a quotation, to wit: "Enough is enough, today we are all Palestinians and we seek martyrdom for God and for Palestine, following those who died in Gaza." I doubt this quotation is correct, and it is incendiary enough that it ought not be cited without some substantiating reference, i.e. footnote. MarmadukePercy (talk) 07:53, 26 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Prince Turki Ambassador to Ireland and UK[edit]

This is FALSE. He was only ambassador to the Court of St. James. I understand that some websites allege that but that is absolutely not true.

You are RIGHT in that he was ambassador to the Court of St. James İn London.Egeymi (talk) 20:19, 23 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Info[edit]

The article is already overloaded. So I put the links given earlier as external links below.Egeymi (talk) 17:39, 3 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

title[edit]

Please do not use "Prince" in the title.Egeymi (talk) 17:50, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 19 March 2024[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. Although this RM was opposed on the grounds that the proposed title is not the subject's official name, a convincing case was laid out for the proposed title being the WP:COMMONNAME. Article titling policy dictates that, in the absence of other considerations, the common name should be used even if it is not the official name; thus, the balance of policy-backed arguments supports the proposed move. (closed by non-admin page mover) ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 14:22, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Turki bin Faisal Al Saud → Turki Al-Faisal – While his official name is "Turki bin Faisal Al-Saud", King Faisal's sons are commonly known with the unofficial last name "Al-Faisal". The name "Turki Al-Faisal" is more commonly used than "Turki Al-Saud", see examples [1][2][3][4][5] High surv (talk) 11:04, 19 March 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Natg 19 (talk) 17:54, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Strong oppose, as mentioned above it's not his official name and also, in Saudi Arabian naming conventions the name of father is always part of the name. --Egeymi (talk) 12:48, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    This is not the same as including the father's name. In the case of Al-Faisals it is used as a last name, which is not the convention for father's names (e.g. Mohammed Bin Salman is used, not "Mohammed Al-Salman").
(as aresponse to your statement above I have to ask) Are you really familiar with Saudi name name convention. If not, I may provide a good source, Egeymi (talk) 20:22, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • It is used semi-officially, as I included government and news sources. But that is besides the point, see WP:COMMON NAME, WP:OFFICIAL. High surv (talk) 20:06, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I think before giving these rules you should read the texts you cited which include the following; Turki Al Faisal Al Saud, Turki bin Faisal Al Saud. So these examples don't support your statement. I may also add other examples from other respected sources which are opposite of your claim. Egeymi (talk) 20:20, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I don't dispute that both names are used, but one is much more commonly used. This is pretty clear if you check the sources used in this article. High surv (talk) 08:53, 21 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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