Talk:Truggy
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Removed 4-wheel-drive feature of truggies. Pat Herbst's truggy, arguably the "original" truggy, is only 2 wheel drive. However, I added that truggies be defined as having front-mounted engines. Buggies are classically rear- or mid-engined, but truggies, being based on truck designs, are (I think) all front-engined. As I see it, a truggy is basically an open-wheel truck.--5th earth 22:58, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
A truggy is a tube car with the engine in front and a solid axle rear end. It's NOT based on a production truck. The "truggy" term comes from desert racing, not rock crawling. Anything based on a production truck races in an established truck category, like Class 8, Class 7, Class 7s.
A buggy is a 'tube car' loosely based on the VW Bug. Thus they have rear engines, like bugs. Truggies take the trick tube chassis idea but adopt it to the classic pick up truck architecture. Big engines in front of the driver, solid axles instead of VW style transaxles in back.
The illustration of the Terrible Herbst Truggy fits this description, not the one in the article.
Many production based desert racing trucks use independent suspension rather than solid axles in the front. (Maybe in the rear too, in some cases?) The Ford Twin Traction Beam (or Twin I Beam for the 2 wheel drive trucks) is popular, as well as other more conventional independent suspension designs, such as SLA. Is this true for truggies as well? I would suspect that truggies use these types of front suspension as well. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.240.136.82 (talk) 18:11, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
It's worth noting that the current picture with the article shows a vehicle with independent front suspension. Solid front axles are not a standard feature of truggies.--5th earth (talk) 02:27, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
Article needs a lot of work.[edit]
Some basic problems I see with this article:
- The article is titled "truggy" but the text refers to caruggy, a much less common term. Are they same, different? Is one term obsolete? Not explained.
- The article starts off by saying: "Some people[who?] think that the caruggy nomenclature is derived from using a car frame as the basis for the vehicle, whereas a "buggy" would have started from the chassis of a Volkswagen Bug."
Encyclopedia style means explaining the topic as simply and clearly as possible. Starting the article with what confused people think, but are wrong about, is not good.
- It appears that the article is being used to promote a person and his business. "Tim Lawrence (TLR Performance Fabrication) of El Cajon" who has managed to paste this all over the place, but he is not the original creator of the Truggy. THIS IS CLEARLY A VIOLATION OF WIKIPEDIA RULES!
- Usually the first Truggy is considered to be the Terrible Herbst Truggy. A Google Search on "Terrible Herbst Truggy" will return pages of videos, article from off-road web sites, and reprints of magazine articles going back years.
- There are no references for the article.
THIS ARTICLE EITHER NEEDS TO BE RE-WRITTEN OR DELETED.