Talk:Troy Garity

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Troi[edit]

I moved this here for discussion:

Born during the Vietnam War, his parents named him after a leader of the Viet Cong, Nguyen Van Troi, who plotted to assassinate United States Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara.

We need a published citation for this. Jokestress 00:34, 23 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

that sounds like bs

Keep in mind it is clearly a biased source, but [1] says

Academy Award-winning American actress and pro-communist political activist Jane Fonda returned to Vietnam in Spring 1974 with Tom Hayden, with their small son, to attend a special service being held in her honor. Fonda was still a recognized idol and hero to the Vietnamese communist regime from her earlier years of political and moral support for the North Vietnamese.
But the ceremony, it turned out, was not just to recognize and honor Fonda for her love of the communists. She was there to have her newborn son formally christened and named Troy in honor of Vietnam's national hero Nguyen Van Troi.

In Spring 1974 he would have been about 9 months old, so it's not outside the realm of possibility.

This site [2] says 1975. There are a bunch of other sites, also, but they are all anti-Jane-Fonda type sites. Cat Parade 05:38, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

From Kate

Biased or not, the quotation from his father Tom Hayden seems out of place for what is meant to be an encyclopedic entry. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Katecasares (talk • contribs) 01:44, 13 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Personal life[edit]

To reiterate and expand on some of the points made in edit summaries that can be seen in the edit History:

The separate article for Simone Bent was deleted and merged with this one. I feel a certain amount of detail describing her is appropriate. All the detail added was appropriately backed up with reference.

The note about Jane Fonda "meddling" seems inappropriate in tone. Perhaps it could be rephrased to say she "helped" pick out the wedding ring but the other phrasing doesn't seem right for an encyclopedia article. I realise that although it had a reference, the reference was not from a particularly high profile source, so it is hard to judge if this information is especially notable. (The quote sounds like something she might have said in exaggeration or jokingly while promoting the Jennifer Lopez film Monster in Law so we should be careful of the tone.)

Please discuss before changing these edits. -- Horkana (talk) 01:26, 18 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

=== wondering why it's mentioned both in his birth and in his personal life that he's Jane Fonda's son.

Unreliable[edit]

There are 29,000 references to the IMDB in the English Wikipedia. If it is "unreliable" then there is a serious problem. In two decades of my watching IMDB, it has been the gold standard for reliable biographical information about the movie industry.

This is so well known as a fact that I am not even sure it needs to be referenced. It is like asking for a reference for the statement that Prince Charles is the son of Queen Elizabeth. A Google search, using "jane henry fonda daughter", gets over half a million hits. The top ten, non-Wikipedia, hits are all to reliable sources, including books and various newspapers from around the world. On Amazon the top ten book hits all make it clear she is the daughter of Henry.

This is so obvious that I did not put in any references. If the original tagger feels that the IMDB is unreliable, then just add another reference which you feel is. Nick Beeson (talk) 12:03, 3 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Nwbeeson I removed the flag about too much reliance on IMDb sources. There are few such references now, and I added the Golden Globes own source for the nomination in 2004. It does seem odd to need a source to say he is cousin to the daughter of his mother's brother, I agree. I do not know who first put that flag on the article, but it is not needed now. Two other sources from a magazine with which I am unfamiliar do not point to anything about Troy Garity, so they are marked dead links. Not enough information was put in the citations originally to find a better url, and write a better citation. I also searched that law article for the reason why it was added to this article, to find the page and footnote where the situation of how his parents named was referenced, and added that to the Wikipedia citation. Interesting article on the pros and cons of adopting step children when birth parents are yet alive, and on choosing the last names of children, but like any legal article, so long! I do not fully understand this Wikipedia dislike of IMDb, which is, as you point out, generally correct, and proof that a television program aired (not just talk of a show that was never made) among other facts. Nonetheless, there is bad feeling about it, written in Wikipedia pages about how to cite IMDb. Wikipedia talk:Citing IMDb and Wikipedia:Citing IMDb, neither of which show the format to cite a movie or television program I have used for years. Yet these pages do agree that IMDb is good to cite that a movie was shown, that a television program aired, and the MPAA ratings. So it goes with these arguments. --Prairieplant (talk) 21:38, 12 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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