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The next name is....[edit]

Earlier today @Jared: came along and removed information on what name is due to be used next in the North Atlantic. His reasons were that in his opinion: "the next storm's name isn't encyclopedic and leads to outdated info if not kept up to date" and that the "information can be gleaned elsewhere." I personally welcome and sort of agree with Jared's reasonings, especially since for a while have not been a fan off seeing the WPAC list updated two or three times a week at the height of the season. I also note that we can not include The next name is.... for all basins since we have no idea what PNG's next name will be. However, I know that @Typhoon2013 and Dustin V. S.: had a brief discussion about this earlier this year and as a result i am pinging them as a curtsey in order for them to express their views here.Jason Rees (talk) 17:48, 30 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks @Jason Rees:, didn't realize this had been discussed before. Came off as a bit crass in the edit summary-- I don't edit often anymore, but this just struck me as a little absurd. In the meantime it looks like you reverted me, no problem, but so if the outcome of this discussion ends up being that the sentence isn't necessary, I'll let you all take care of removing it again. I'll monitor this in case you're looking for more input! Jared (t)  20:33, 30 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Jared: I put these sentences because 1.) when I first visited that page, the same sentence was only mentioned in one of the sections (I think it was either the N Atl. or the EPac idk) and 2.) I feel like something like this will help people understand what is the next name for storms. Otherwise we put in the start of each section, See also: 2015 article (2015 PTS, PHS, etc). Typhoon2013 (talk) 05:52, 1 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Jared, it seems like you are not responding for 22 days now. IMO we should keep this because I always update this. Typhoon2013 (talk) 06:00, 22 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I have personally only just seen your message Typhoon2013, but just because you constantly update it does not mean we should keep something that is not easily verified by sources and that applies to both this article and the season articles.

Orphaned references in Tropical cyclone naming[edit]

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Tropical cyclone naming's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "PAGASA Nona":

  • From 2015 Pacific typhoon season: "PHL ends 2015 with less typhoons; to decommission 2 killer cyclones" (Press release). Manila Bulletin. Retrieved December 22, 2015.
  • From Typhoon Melor (2015): "PHL ends 2015 with less typhoons; to decommission 2 killer cyclones". Philstar.com (Press release). The Philippine Star. Retrieved December 22, 2015.

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 07:42, 3 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Should we make the 2017 Hurricanes have links?[edit]

Should the 2017 Hurricanes that have a Wikipedia page be able to access from this page? (Using this: [[ ]]). I think so, because you can see the 2017 Hurricane names. However, I'm guessing they will be removed soon. Tybomb124 (talk) 17:09, 10 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Not compatible to the subject matter of TC naming, so no need IMO. YE Pacific Hurricane 18:55, 10 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Papua New Guinea names[edit]

In List of historical tropical cyclone names, I do not see any name from the list set up by Papua New Guinea's National Weather Service. Has the list been ever used, or is it still standing there unused, waiting for a cyclone to intensify within PNG's area of responsibility in order to do its debut? -- SilSinn9821 (talk) 17:57, 22 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Papua New Guniea rarely names tropical cyclones (the last one being Guba 2007) and when they do they are automatically retired. I will respond to your concerns on LOHTCN on LOHTCN in a bit.Jason Rees (talk) 22:53, 22 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
When you sign your posts, can you please put a space (or, like Meow, two hyphens) before your four tildes? Thankee! --SilSinn9821 (talk) 01:27, 23 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Tropical cyclone naming institutions[edit]

The TCNI table beginning the History section lists two institutions for SWIO, none of them linking to any article. There is one, Météo Madagascar, whose name sounds as if it were related to Météo-France. If any of these two institutions is an MFR affiliate, shouldn’t its name link to Météo-France? ​‑‑🌀⁠SilSinnAL982100⁠💬 22:55, 6 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Neither Meteo Madagascar or the Mauritius Weather Service are affiliated with Meteo France and as things stand there isn't anywhere to link them to which is why they are not linked.Jason Rees (talk) 00:06, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
"Meteo" is just the French language word for "weather"/"meteorology". Madagascar speaks French. So do a lot of other countries. Assuming it has anything to do with the French agency because it uses a common French word is kinda rudely presumptive. It's like saying the Environmental Protection Agency is tied to the British crown because the name is in English. oknazevad (talk) 00:36, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
On second thought, the WMO is on strike so the public has voted for the new names. Jason Rees (talk) 09:43, 26 January 2021 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jasen Rees (talk • contribs) [reply]

Pronunciations[edit]

The NHC provides lists of "official" tropical cyclone name pronunciations here, as well as certain other RSMCs. Would it be a good idea to add pronunciations to this article, e.g. in a separate line of IPA below each name? This could possibly be useful with uncommon (especially foreign) names. — RAVENPVFF · talk · 13:04, 20 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Ravenpuff: I really agree with you. This should be done, especially for non-English tropical cyclone names, like those for the West Pacific basin. I've been watching videos on YouTube and many reporters have been mispronouncing typhoon names, e.g. this year's Typhoon Hagibis (Filipino word meaning rapidity) has been mispronounced as HA-gi-bis and, even worse, HA-ji-bis, instead of the correct pronunciation: ha-GI-bis. The worst one so far I heard was for Severe Tropical Storm Maliksi (ma-lik-SI) when it was pronounced as ma-LIK-sahy (the final i pronounced like the i in ice, instead like that of the ee in free).—Nairb.Idi9 (talk)
@Ravenpuff: I think it would also be better to include the meanings of the names, especially for the West Pacific names.—Nairb.Idi9 (talk)
I'm actually trying it now, creating a table in my sandbox. If you can fill out some data in it so that it can be included in the page, it would be a great help.—Nairb.Idi9 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 13:05, 12 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I don't mind put how to prounce something into this article, but adding meanings in is taking things a bit too far especially when you consider that only one basin has a defined list of names and meanings.Jason Rees (talk) 13:22, 12 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Jason Rees: Took me too long before I replied to this... But anyway, about putting pronunciations for Western Pacific Ocean (180° – 100°E) tropical cyclone names, which do you think is better: an IPA pronunciation key, or a sound clip guide for the pronunciation like in this list of TC names in the ESCAP/WMO Typhoon Committee's official website? —Nairb.Idi9 (talk) 11:25, 16 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Old North Indian Ocean Names[edit]

With Amphan long dissipated and Nisarga now formed, should the old 2004 North Indian Ocean names be removed from the article? This article doesn't have the old pre-2000 Western Pacific names nor the pre-1979 Atlantic names, so I figure it no longer needs the old North Indian Ocean names. Should those names be removed now, or should we wait until the end of the year since Amphan is part of the 2020 season? - Monsoonjr99 (talk) 22:15, 2 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Monsoonjr99: It is an interesting question that none of us are sure about, however, we do have the names listed in List of historical tropical cyclone names. As a result, it wouldnt be a bad shout to remove it from here now.Jason Rees (talk) 16:19, 21 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Why not? 🐔 Chicdat ChickenDatabase 10:30, 23 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Replacement names[edit]

@ハブバブ: I am wondering about the replacement names for Rumbia and Mangkhut. Can you please leave a source for the replacement names because I cannot find one online. Thanks. ~ Destroyeraa (talk|Contribs) 14:45, 21 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The sources cited in the article will be updated in time but for now the typhoon committees final report is here.Jason Rees (talk) 16:02, 21 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, got it. Thanks. ~ Destroyeraa (talk|Contribs) 16:16, 21 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"2024 Atlantic hurricane season" listed at Redirects for discussion[edit]

A discussion is taking place to address the redirect 2024 Atlantic hurricane season. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 September 19#2024 Atlantic hurricane season until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. ~ Destroyeraa🌀 00:39, 19 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Move naming list from 2019 to 2025[edit]

Can I move the naming list in "List of Atlantic tropical cyclone names" from the top to bottom, 2019 to 2025, especially if some of those names have not been retired yet? --Allen (talk / ctrb) 17:34, 28 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Allen2: Not yet. We don't actually have the name list for 2025, as retired names from 2019 (most likely Dorian and perhaps Imelda) and their replacements have not yet been announced. This will happen at the WMO conference in March/April. This would have happened this past spring, but the conference was postponed until 2021 because of the pandemic. TornadoLGS (talk) 20:53, 28 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I would oppose this as we wait until the WMO hurricane committee meets before we move the lists down, since in theory the names are not confirmed/decided until they meet.Jason Rees (talk) 21:47, 28 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Greek Retirement Issue[edit]

I have removed the section from this article as I do not feel that it is relevant to this article, which is designed to present the tropical cyclone names from around the world, rather than delve into any specific controversy or issue around the world to do with tropical cyclone naming. This is because the History of tropical cyclone naming around the world is very controversial, long winded and deserves its own article. We have after all been dealing with the issue for over 100 years now! I would also note that some of the information when its tided up, condensed and corrected, could go into both the List of retired Pacific hurricane names and List of retired Atlantic hurricane names.Jason Rees (talk) 02:08, 29 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

While a whole section isn't warranted here, it may be worth mentioning in a sentence or two that there is some consideration of changing naming conventions. TornadoLGS (talk) 21:42, 29 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Are they though? All NHC has said is that they will talk about the naming scheme at the hurricane committee this year which happens every year to differing degrees.Jason Rees (talk) 23:34, 29 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
A whole section is needed, but not here. See Talk:2020 Atlantic hurricane season#Name retirement issue.--Jasper Deng (talk) 01:48, 3 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Breaking news WMO has announced new names to replace retired names and New auxiliary naming list to replace Greek naming list[edit]

As WMO has announced today with new names and new naming list

- New names to replace retired names: https://public.wmo.int/en/media/press-release/wmo-hurricane-committee-retires-tropical-cyclone-names-and-ends-use-of-greek

- New auxiliary naming list to replace Greek naming list: https://public.wmo.int/en/media/news/supplemental-list-of-tropical-cyclone-names-raiv

You can add these to Tropical cyclone naming since it's offically announced --EllaCyclone (talk) 18:56, 17 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • How will the new auxiliary list be cycled through? For example, if we reach the 22nd, 23rd, and 24th names in the alphabet, three years in a row, will the storms be named Adria, Braylen, and Caridad each time? Or will the first auxiliary name of the second year in this example be Deshawn, and so on? The article should make this clear. 142.116.123.215 (talk) 18:39, 21 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

give me[edit]

Plz give me edit permission of this article Jupiter50 (talk) 16:37, 28 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Since you are not extended-confirmed, you will have to make an edit request using this template. Note that this requires a specific request on what you want to be changed. TornadoLGS (talk) 18:23, 28 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Brother 😊 Jupiter50 (talk) 05:21, 29 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 29 May 2021[edit]

Tropical cyclone naming institutions Jupiter50 (talk) 05:20, 29 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Jupiter50: What exactly would you like to do on the page? The article already has the tropical cyclone naming institutions, so I will mark this as  Already done. If you have another request, just request again! 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me! 11:33, 29 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you chicdat brother 😊 Jupiter50 (talk) 12:03, 29 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"2027 Pacific hurricane season" listed at Redirects for discussion[edit]

A discussion is taking place to address the redirect 2027 Pacific hurricane season. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 August 19#2027 Pacific hurricane season until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. -- Tavix (talk) 02:35, 19 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

2022[edit]

I posted the 2027 list, please make any corrections if necessary. GoldenRod113 (talk) 17:53, 27 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@GoldenRod113: Thank you for your effort to add the 2027 list in, however, we generally wait until after the WMO's Hurricane Committee has met and updated the naming lists as its considered original research to do otherwise.Jason Rees (talk) 20:17, 27 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I deleted 2021. We’ll keep 2022-2026 until a reliable source has the 2027 list. Seddon227 (talk) 21:53, 4 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Seddon: I would suggest keeping it, since it is part of the current naming list until the replacement names are announced. TornadoLGS (talk) 21:56, 4 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Please, let's leave 2021–2026 until after a reliable source has the 2027 list. Drdpw (talk) 22:14, 4 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 19 March 2022[edit]

The 2020 Western Pacific typhoon names that were retired have been replaced, per the official WMO page. Vongfong has been replaced by Penha, Linfa to Peilou, Molave to Narra, Goni to Gaenari, and Vamco to Bang-Lang. Here is the link that I found the information, and it has been used as a previous source for other basins: https://public.wmo.int/en/our-mandate/focus-areas/natural-hazards-and-disaster-risk-reduction/tropical-cyclones/Naming

Thank you for considering. Weatherman4064 (talk) 13:27, 19 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 Done by Nxsa. SpinningCeres 14:31, 4 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 21 March 2022[edit]

Please give me permission to edit this page Jupiter50 (talk) 11:01, 21 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done Edit requests are not for asking permission to edit a page. This cannot be done. They are for asking specific changes to be made to the page (e.g. "Change A to B"). TornadoLGS (talk) 18:00, 21 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 29 September 2022[edit]

PAGASA The Philippine Atmospheric, Geophysical and Astronomical Services Administration

URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PAGASA MKCchauhan18 (talk) 08:09, 29 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: It is not clear what changes you want made to the article. Edit requests should be given along the lines of "change X to Y." TornadoLGS (talk) 20:26, 29 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 30 September 2022[edit]

The link for PAGASA in the External links section doesn't work anymore. it should be https://bagong.pagasa.dost.gov.ph/. — 🍕 Yivan000 viewtalk 00:31, 30 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 Done: Replaced it with https://www.pagasa.dost.gov.ph/ instead (originally was https://www1.pagasa.dost.gov.ph/) which seems to be identical. 💜  melecie  talk - 00:41, 30 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 1 October 2022[edit]

Replacing the word auxiliary with supplemental when referring to the North Atlantic and Eastern Pacific, as the sources already listed refer to the lists as the latter rather than the former. However the Philippines auxiliary list will still be referred as the same, as official sources call it that instead. Vortex4020 (talk) 06:20, 1 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 Done in revision 1118210531. TGHL ↗ 🍁 18:55, 25 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 22 February 2023[edit]

Enali is supposed to be Enala based on this link provided by the WMO. https://public.wmo.int/en/our-mandate/focus-areas/natural-hazards-and-disaster-risk-reduction/tropical-cyclones/Naming Flasty Jam (talk) 01:25, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Done.Jason Rees (talk) 01:36, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 29 March 2023[edit]

Change Southern Atlantic names - to include the newly added names as of 2022 as it has not been updated yet. Sria-72 (talk) 18:59, 29 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Lightoil (talk) 00:44, 30 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Sria-72 and ABC paulista: If either of you can provide an updated reference for the South Atlantic names then I willing to update the list and make the change. Jason Rees (talk) 03:28, 30 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It should be on the South Atlantic tropical cyclone page, since those were already updated. Sria-72 (talk) 14:36, 30 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Reference is located here (was gonna do it myself but I didn't know the best way do to it). Infinity (talk - contributions) 22:11, 30 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
 Done not sure if the way I did it was the best but you can fix it. Infinity (talk - contributions) 15:39, 30 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Retirement names of Pacific Typhoon season[edit]

Few tropical cyclone names were retired from the 2021 and 2022 Pacific Typhoon seasons by the official Typhoon Committee, but the change not reflected in the Wiki page with reference. I don't know why? It is been more than a month since it was declared and proper reference is also available. HarrySupertyphoon (talk) 18:40, 3 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 11 May 2023[edit]

Add a link Cyclone Mocha as == North Indian Ocean (45°E – 100°E) == 112.209.29.174 (talk) 07:08, 11 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Done 🐔 Chicdat  Bawk to me! 10:16, 11 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 12 November 2023[edit]

Add New names for the South West Indian Ocean

2024-25 Names: Aurora, Bezile, Carlito, Dudu, Elvis, Fanizo, Garance, Honde, Isaurh, Jude and Kanto 2025-26 Names: Awo, Blossom, Chakalisa, Desterai, Edgar, and Fytia 2A02:C7E:4C33:BF00:CC10:CC9:C7AB:2F9 (talk) 23:07, 12 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 22:25, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

requesting to include details about Midhili (already named and made landfall) and michaung (yet to land fall)[edit]

hello , I am Sanjai from India. when I looked into this page i noticed that there is no blue highlight for Midhili( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyclone_Midhili?wprov=sfla1) and while I am texting this there is now a new cyclone is gonna make landfall near coast of Tamil Nadu and Andhra Pradesh. Cyclone name is michaung (suggested by Myanmar) . So make a wiki page and include all the details. SANJAI DS (talk) 16:23, 30 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 12 December 2023[edit]

link Jasper to the name of storms named Jasper Incognito Fedora (talk) 15:18, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Shadow311 (talk) 16:21, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Change the name Jasper in the Australian list to contain a link to the list of storms named Jasper, Incognito Fedora (talk) 17:06, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 1 January 2024[edit]

May you please remove 2023 name lists as its now 2024 also add 2027 name lists now 198.38.50.46 (talk) 23:31, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I mean 2029 not 2027 198.38.50.46 (talk) 23:32, 1 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. M.Bitton (talk) 02:33, 2 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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