Talk:Triops longicaudatus

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Triops longicaudatus fossils are NOT 200 Million years old. USA Fossil studies have shown that they only existed ~70 Million years ago.

People are misquoting the fossil studies of Triops cancriformis.

Some toy companies selling these Triops kits are even quoting 500 Million years! --Quatermass 10:41, 28 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

http://unclemilton.com/products/Back2Nature/LiveHab/DeluxeAquasaurs.html is one of the toy companies selling the kits and their manual:

http://www.unclemilton.com/company/manuals/AquasaursManual.pdf

is one of the ones making these claims.

--Kitterma (talk) 03:14, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Also, as "living fossils" go, wouldn't that make them relatively unimpressive? As I understand current mainstream science, many extant animals are older than dinosaurs, which is hundreds of millions of years.. like, turtles and crocodiles and... sharks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.73.70.113 (talk) 00:15, 3 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sharks are older than dinosaurs, but turtles and crocodiles are about the same age, all three reptile groups are about 200 million years old if I remember correctly (just to clarify, the third group is dinosaurs, not sharks which are fish and not reptiles). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.36.148.242 (talk) 03:24, 19 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

NOTE: This article is currently being rewritten and thoroughly checked for unverified claims by me. All the correct information in the article is going to stay, but the misquotes have to GO. --Crustaceanguy (talk) 00:51, 26 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

pollution and triops[edit]

How do Triops react to pollutants in the water. I have look in several places, but only found out that they are a threat to rice patties. TripleA AAA (talk) 23:53, 5 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Like any other freshwater shrimp invertebrate. They are quite sensitive to metals for example. --Quatermass (talk) 19:11, 11 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Commercial sites[edit]

Are links to companies which selling these creatures allowed? I'm thinking of Wikipedia's help page External_links#Links_normally_to_be_avoided - section 5 - Links to web pages that primarily exist to sell products or services. If no one objects after a suitable time, I'll delete them. --Quatermass (talk) 19:11, 11 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I second their removal. The website referenced isn't even a good reference for information on the subject. Spreggo (talk) 22:05, 3 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

dinosaurs[edit]

"... to survive the natural disasters that may have killed the dinosaurs 66 million years ago" may??? 66??? Dinosaurs did NOT go extinct all at once. mass extinctions occur regularly and even today. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extinction_event Therefore changed. Rangutan (talk) 08:47, 12 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

File:Triops-longicaudatus-dorsal-ventral-edit2.jpg to appear as POTD soon[edit]

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Longtail tadpole shrimp
The longtail tadpole shrimp (Triops longicaudatus) is a freshwater crustacean resembling a miniature horseshoe crab. It is one of the oldest animal species still in existence. Like its relative Triops cancriformis, the longtail tadpole shrimp is considered a living fossil because its basic prehistoric morphology has changed little in the last 70 million years, exactly matching ancient fossils.Photo: Micha L. Rieser
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Assessment comment[edit]

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Most of the information in the article is good, but a few things stand out:
  1. Much of the article is unreferenced — ideally every fact should be backed up with a citation, but there should definitely be at least one (inline) reference per paragraph, (one per sentence would not be unreasonable). It's OK to re-use references, but try not to rely too heavily on a very small number of references. Online sources are preferred to otherwise equivalent paper ones for ease of checking; if you can find alternatives to Grzimek (which I guess few other Wikipedians have access to), then so much the better. If not, then not to worry.
  2. GA reviewers are likely to pick up on weasel words like "The eggs are said to have to dry out". The obvious question is: by whom? Once you know who says so and where, you can cite that as a source.
  3. I didn't see any clear description of what distinguishes T. longicaudatus from other species in the same genus. I assume that most of the morphoplogy section applies equally well to T. cancriformis and others.
  4. The lead calls T. longicaudatus "primitive". Biologists hardly use this word any more, because it is related to an outmoded view of evolution that equated complexity with advancement. T. longicaudatus has had 200 million years longer than most species to adapt to its environment, and is almost certainly exquisitely suited to it, so is hardly "primitive". An animal like that would normally be called "simple" instead (although even that captures the situation imperfectly, in my opinion).
  5. The article ends by claiming that the two subspecies "have not been officially accepted". Nothing is official in taxonomy, so either the taxa have been properly published or they haven't. It may be that some scientists don't believe that there is a real distinction, but that's a quite different claim. I can find very little information about the subspecies, so unless you've got some good references about them, it may be best simply to ignore the fact that some infrapsecific taxa may have been proposed at some point. It would be amazing if there weren't a fair amount of genetic variation in such a widespread species with so little mobility.

There are also some small minor formatting issues (units, n-dashes for ranges of numbers) and a couple of typos, but they can be dealt with later. For now, referencing the text is the most pressing task. --Stemonitis 16:46, 15 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

All right, I took care of that (or most of it, at least). I also added a vernal pool comparison double-image. --Crustaceanguy 16:40, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Last edited at 00:04, 2 September 2007 (UTC). Substituted at 09:16, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

New picture available[edit]

Please consider if useful for the page. --Dans (talk) 07:55, 14 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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