Talk:Transformational leadership

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This article was the subject of an educational assignment in Fall 2014. Further details were available on the "Education Program:Carnegie Mellon University/Communication in Groups and Organizations (Fall 2014)" page, which is now unavailable on the wiki.

I just made a pass at cleaning up and wikifying this article. More work needs to be done. This article has suffered from major neglect. LarryQ 13:27, 30 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This term is notable, with +16k entries in Google Scholar: [1]. One of the books that were seminal to this theory was cited more than 500k by secondary sources. Editor br (talk) 22:33, 15 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Source #11 (Tafvenin) needs to be corrected - it points to a doctoral thesis, not a journal article, but I don't know how to cite that properly. --159.77.137.78 (talk) 11:58, 27 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Some sort of private members' club[edit]

I have reverted the addition of the "Transformational Leadership Council" to this article as a non notable private members' club. All it has in common with this article is two words of its title. Fiddle Faddle (talk) 22:42, 16 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

comment My dear friend Fiddle Faddle ... When I typed "Transformational Leadership Council" into Wikipedia's search engine, I was directed to the article "Transformational Leadership" instead of to "Jack Canfield". Also, there was a note at the top of the page saying that this was a redirect. So, I assumed that an editor or administrator WANTED "Transformational Leadership Council" to be part of the "Transformational Leadership" article. So, I added it. Now, you have taken it down. The fact that the hit movie THE SECRET was filmed at a TLC event and that most of the featured teachers of that movie were TLC members, seems to me that makes TLC notable. Everyone else thinks that it is notable. Larry King and Oprah think it is notable and invited several TLC members who were in the movie to be on their show. Why are you so steadfast that it is not notable? Raymondaaron (talk) 01:03, 17 February 2009 (UTC)Raymond Aaron[reply]

I have this page on my watchlist and saw the question. What sources do we have for the TLC? Will Beback talk 01:06, 17 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

comment to Will Beback If you Google "Transformational Leadership Council", you will find that 14 of the first 20 hits refer to this group. Practically all of the featured speakers in the movie and in the book The Secret were interviewed at a TLC meeting and were members of TLC. Several TLC members were invited by Larry King and Oprah to talk about the movie. This is already all confirmed and verified in articles on The Secret (2006 film) and The Secret (book). Raymondaaron (talk) 01:44, 17 February 2009 (UTC)Raymond Aaron[reply]

I don't see any mention of the TLC in the articles you pointed me to. I'm trying to find sources that would qualify as "reliable sources". I suggest doing a careful search on Google, etc, and particularly look for newspapers or books that discuss the TLC. The ones that come closest seem to deal with it as a project of Canfield. Maybe expanding the material in his bio, where it's already mentioned, would be better than adding it here or creatig a separate article. As more sources are found it can be expanded and evenutaly spun off into a separate article. Will Beback talk 02:14, 17 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There are no reliable sources. This is using Wikipedia as an advert for a bunch (currently 99) of self styled great and good "transformational leaders" whose sole claim to this is that they validate each other by having created a private club into which they can invite one member each per year. The TLC's website is a place for each of them to hang out his or her shingle in the hope that someone will buy their services. Fiddle Faddle (talk) 09:08, 17 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

What this appears to be is training people to lead in housekeeping in organizations and corporations; sort of like the special troops in Hitlers Army that wore the black uniforms with red colors and a white nazi symbol. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.244.99.175 (talk) 20:55, 25 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Literature[edit]

Bass is the first who introduced transformational leadership in the organizational context. Burns first introduced the concept in 1978 in the context of political leaders. The book "Bass, B. M. (1985). Leadership and Performance Beyond Expectations. New York: Free Press." is a reliable source. Bass also published more on transformational leadership. There might be a link between personality traits and leadership, but the section on Psychology should be deleated. Avolio created a questionnair how to test for transformational leadership. Avolio, B. J., Bass, B. M., & Jung, D. I. (1995). Multifactor Leadership Questionnaire technical report. Redwood City, CA: Mind Garden. I hope this information is helpful to improve the article. --Verena Köster (talk)

Spelling mistake? "transformatial"[edit]

There are several points in the article which talk about "transformatial leadership". Is that a spelling mistake intended to be "transformational leadership", or is it a synonymous term? A Google search for "transformatial" doesn't yield anything particularly helpful. - Elusive Pete (talk) 13:08, 2 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Approach vs. Style[edit]

While I doubt anyone is going to argue with me, want to explain the change from "style" to "approach". Transformational leadership is not a superficial fashion, fad, or manner of communicating. It is not a "style". Instead it is a fundamentally different way of leading that only works if the leader believes in what he or she is doing. It is an "approach". Gbradt (talk) 14:57, 23 December 2009 (UTC) blah blah blah — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.216.46.203 (talk) 17:39, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Reorganisation of the page[edit]

It seems like this page hasn't been maintained in a while, and doesn't do much to explain the concept of Transformation Leadership beyond the origins of the term. Also, the references provided could be reorganized into a single section instead of being scattered all over like they are now. Bhongwiki (talk) 18:53, 25 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Big Five[edit]

The discussion of how the Big Five personality traits correlate with transformational leadership is interesting but not as useful as it would be if the presented information were compared with the same traits and transactional leadership. Does anyone have something useful to say about this? Wyvern (talk) 00:42, 30 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

This article was the subject of an educational assignment in Fall 2014. Further details were available on the "Education Program:Carnegie Mellon University/Communication in Groups and Organizations (Fall 2014)" page, which is now unavailable on the wiki.

Floating citation[edit]

What's up with the in-line citation at the very beginning?--Megaman en m (talk) 00:12, 10 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]