Talk:Toxin (character)

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Toxin should not be classed an an anti-hero, in that he has strict morals that do not break any laws (except of course, being a vigilante.).

Have you read the Wiki for anti-hero? It's a very broad category, ranging from Homer Simpson to The Punisher to Gatsby. It seems that any flawed character cast in a main character role could be considered an anti-hero. --Anon80
He doesn't exactly fit into any of those categories-He's a traditional hero, no more an anti-hero than Spider-man.

Yes, Spider-Man is an anti-hero, his heroic acts come from guilt, and his character is flawed.T-1000 02:37, 23 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I wouldnt say that, exactly... I would say that Spider-Man does what he does because of what he learned, not out of guilt. It may seem like guilt but its more because he learned that with great power comes great responsibility and, thus, he needed to fill that roll. I could so how it could be identified as guilt, but I would never go so far as to say that.

Chainwebs?[edit]

Shouldn't they be cited as a referance to Spawn, since Todd McFarlane created both Spawn and Venom? (yes, I know he CO created venom) Jackpot Den 00:07, 12 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I would agree, it seems to me the "chainwebs" would be an homage to former Spiderman artist, and Venom co-creator Todd McFarlane, and his creation Spawn, which he has admitted was influenced by Spiderman. -rex 19 June 2006

Can anyone cite either? They don't really look that much like chains to me...--Viridis 10:12, 25 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

1000th symbiote?[edit]

I was reading Toxin's comic, and I remember Venom saying something about him being the 998th symbiote in his line, Carnage the 999th, and Toxin the 1000th, and the 1000th symbiote had more potential to make it's host go insane, or something like that. That's another reason he wanted to train Toxin. I don't remember the exact details though. Can anyone verify this, and does anyone think it should be noted on the main page?24.19.62.17 19:36, 11 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The Initiative[edit]

The article says that Toxin is on the cover of the the Avengers: The Initiative. While there is a red symbiote on the cover, it has not been confirmed as Toxin and really has more of a resemblence to Carnage than Toxin.

It's been confirmed as Toxin, now.--Viridis^{talk|contributions} 01:31, 29 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Also on that point, how does Carnage's apparent demise have any link to Toxin joining the Initiative with Venom? Venom was the one who enlisted Carnage to help bash Toxin's brains out in Venom vs Carnage.

Actually, Venom initially wanted to protect Toxin and later even gave him that name. Carnage was the one who wanted Toxin dead the whole time. I myself never saw this cover, though, so I couldnt tell you who it was.

Yes, and then he teamed up with Carnage after he saw Toxin was strong and good. I guess we'll have to read the Initiative.--Viridis^{talk|contributions} 01:31, 29 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That was the Eddie Brock version of Venom; The Mac Gargan version may feel differently. Bluecatcinema 13:31, 29 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Toxin's wife[edit]

Did Toxin really introduce his wife to the symbiote? I read the series and the Toxin series and I really don't remember it.

Yes, at the very end. They were talking in a coffeshop and he wanted to explain why he walked out on her before. He said something like "promise not to freak out, ok?" and then it cut away, showing the outside of the coffeeshop and showing her scream. It's assumed that means he showed her the symbiote.

Sign your posts!--Viridis^{talk|contributions} 01:31, 29 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Speed of transformation[edit]

I saw in the comic that Patrick comments "It only takes a minute or two...from human to symbiote"

This indicates it takes him a few minutes to have his costume cover him, as opposed to Venom and Carnage, who appear to be able to have their costumes cover them instantly. Should this be noted somewhere in the article?

Psychotic?[edit]

How could Toxin have been a greater psychopath than Carnage? 75.157.91.25 (talk) 07:08, 3 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

In other media[edit]

Patrick Mulligan appeared briefly in Spider-Man 3; he was seen in the background during the final battle, in the scene where J. Jonah Jameson bought a camera from the little girl. Mulligan was credited in the end credits as "Pat Mulligan". He was played by Crispin Glover.

OK, 1) I don't remember this in the movie, 2) Crispin Glover doesn't have Spider-Man 3 anywhere on his imdb page, and 3) Spider-Man 3 doesn't have Crispin Glover anywhere on it's imdb page. I think this should be removed. 64.241.230.3 18:30, 28 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Fair use rationale for Image:TOXIN0101.jpg[edit]

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Irony?[edit]

Should it be mentioned that even though Venom believed that Toxin would go "crazy", that Venom himself was dubbed by his own SPECIES to be insane?mcnichoj (talk) 19:16, 11 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Larry[edit]

Shouldn't there be something about the "Larry" business? It's certainly relevant to the psychology of the Mulligan/symbiote combination. (It's also amusing, if that counts as an argument for inclusion on this site.)79.182.34.112 (talk) 01:11, 16 January 2009 (UTC) 79.182.34.112 (talk) 01:36, 16 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]