Talk:Tourism in West Bengal

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Date	Process	Result
August 1, 2012	Featured article candidate	Not promoted

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Opinion![edit]

Comments on this version of the article.

Wikitravel

It seems to be a Wikitravel type article .

Purpose?

What is the purpose of this article? Is this article on West Bengal Government's tourism projects and initiative or it has been attempted guide on West Bengal tourism? If first one is true– our focus should be on WB Gov's initiative and if second on true (i.e. it is a travel guide), then Wikitravel is a better place.

Duplicate of "West Bengal" article– irrelevant information

A very large portion of the article is not relevant here and should be added (or already added, hence duplicate content) in West Bengal article.

"Cultural" section

Full of unnecessary points, literature, culture should be in "West Bengal" article, not in 'Tourism in West Bengal"

Images

Remove some images, it is looking more a photo album than an article. Do not add two galleries!--Tito Dutta ✉ 15:29, 30 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

On hold --Jagadhatri(২০১২) 12:04, 31 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You commented saying:

"Duplicate of "West Bengal" article– irrelevant information A very large portion of the article is not relevant here and should be added (or already added, hence duplicate content) in West Bengal article."

Can you please tell me which parts are irrelevant so I may delete those sections. --Jagadhatri(২০১২) 12:18, 31 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Cultural section full.. the other questions above are unanswered! --Tito Dutta ✉ 12:24, 31 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

What do you mean by ".. the other questions above are unanswered!"'--Jagadhatri(২০১২) 12:34, 31 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

there were multiple questions above– purpose of the article, too many images etc! --Tito Dutta ✉ 12:41, 31 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Most of the images will be removed again and the purpose of this article is "West Bengal Government's tourism projects and initiative". But no sufficient information is available on the Government's initiatives, most of them say that the Government is "going to" take action. --Jagadhatri(২০১২) 13:39, 31 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Workups![edit]

I've performed some manual editing of the article and would like to suggest some things to fellow members. I'd personally also take up the task of fulfilling these requirements. I wish the article to be upgraded to a good status.

Avoid including too many galleries in article, as per Wikipedia:Galleries. Common solutions to this problem include moving the gallery to wikicommons. Wikipedia is not an image repository
Per WP:WIAFA, this article's table of contents (ToC) may be too long – consider shrinking it down by merging short sections or using a proper system of daughter pages as per Wikipedia:Summary style. However, this shouldn't be the major problem if the article looks good and appealing.
The article has too much of geographical details, which are somehow not conerned very directly with the article.
As the article deals about Tourism in WB, we should add some data and facts about tourists coming to West Bengal, most visited places, annual budget of government and schemes of government to promote the same.
Per Wikipedia:Context and Wikipedia:Manual of Style (dates), months and days of the week generally should not be linked. Years, decades, and centuries can be linked if they provide context for the article.
There are many grammatical redundancies in the article.

VIVEK RAI : Friend? 09:19, 6 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

To-do list[edit]

The article must have proper layout (sea beaches, hill stations under "heritage"?). Done
Parts of the article must not have have poor prose, and some sections must not be just full of list, without any prose. Done
What has the whole list of authors and poets to do with tourism? Or, for that matter, the film personalities or the bands? If you think there is some relation between these and tourism, you have to explain that in the prose. Done
No sections must be without any citations.
Stuck
There must not be any mere copying from other articles. Done
Consider trying WP:GAN or WP:PR before WP:FAC. On hold
Tone and neutrality problems, for example in the unattributed use of phrases like "Kolkata (then known as Calcutta) enjoyed the privilege of being the capital of British India and witnessed a spate of frenzied construction of buildings, largely influenced by the conscious intermingling"
Stuck
Manual of Style issues, including overlinking, hyphen/dash problems, capitalization in headings, etc Working
General copy-editing needed Working
Some images missing US copyright info
Stuck
Many unreferenced sections
Stuck
Inconsistent citation formatting, some citations missing necessary information.
Stuck
Move page to Tourist attractions in West Bengal. N Not done and not likely to be done

Thank you. --Tamravidhir(২০১২)(first time written on 4 August 2012) (second time written on 8 August 2012)

This article is NOT about Tourism in West Bengal[edit]

It's a tourist guide to West Bengal. Worse than that, it appears to be an advert for tourism in West Bengal. There's no infomation about the tourist industry: revenue, number of visitors, numbers employed in the industry, impact of tourism etc. It either should be completely re-written or moved to something like Tourist attractions of West Bengal, but that is close to advertising spam rather than an encyclopedia article. DeCausa (talk) 13:49, 4 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Dear friend so shall I move this page to Tourist attractions of West Bengal? --Tamravidhir(২০১২) 14:07, 4 August 2012 (UTC);[reply]

It would be a more accurate title. I'm not sure it adds much that isn't in the West Bengal article. Why don't you write about the tourism industry in this article instead. Compare Tourism in the United States and Tourist attractions in the United States DeCausa (talk) 14:23, 4 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I am unable to find the information about the revenue they get from tourism, the tourism and industry and also the number of visitors. :( You can help.....--Tamravidhir(২০১২) 14:26, 4 August 2012 (UTC);[reply]

Don't know anything about it. start with google & google books DeCausa (talk) 14:39, 4 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Instead of suggesting I would prefer if any one of you edit this article, for it's good will! Thank you.--Tamravidhir(২০১২) 14:45, 4 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A private conversation[edit]

Urgent help needed...[edit]

Moonriddengirl, I nominated Tourism in West Bengal for FA but it was declined, I have a to-do list here and here...I BEG you to help me atleast in this one!!! Please.....please.....please....please......please.....please....please.....--Tamravidhir(২০১২) 13:16, 4 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry, Tamravidhir. :( I don't have a single "featured article" on my own list, because I really just don't have time. I don't want to sound like I don't value featured articles; I do. Obviously, they represent some of our best achievements, and the people who work on them are a huge part of what makes Wikipedia great. But while I occasionally try to improve articles (and even when I can to create them), most of my time on Wikipedia is spent using my "mop" to clean up copyright issues or attempting to help keep things running smoothly for people like you. What about asking at the WikiProject or perhaps finding somebody who has created a lot of Featured Articles and asking them for advice? --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 13:23, 4 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You are an administrator and have been here since long..so do you know any?--Tamravidhir(২০১২) 13:25, 4 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You should check out WikiProject India. That's your best bet. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:27, 4 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

That's very good advice. :) You also might want to talk to some of the people at Wikipedia:List of Wikipedians by featured article nominations, especially if they share your interest in that topic area. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 13:33, 4 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I gave it for a WPR to WikiProject India and am going to ask User:Wehwalt for help. --Tamravidhir(২০১২) 13:45, 4 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

That's a little off the beaten path for him. Um, Redtigerxyz does a lot of good work on India, but he prefers historical and religious aspects. (He's brought several gods and a Mahabharata character to FA already) — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:09, 4 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you again! You may join in the discussion here --Tamravidhir(২০১২) 14:19, 4 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Quick comment: you really need to to cut back on the lists. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:25, 4 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

What do you mean?--Tamravidhir(২০১২) 14:30, 4 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The sections Wildlife sanctuaries and national parks and #Rivers of West Bengal, for example, look terrible and don't provide much knowledge to the reader. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:36, 4 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Instead of suggesting I would prefer if any one of you edit this article, for it's good will! Thank you. --Tamravidhir(২০১২) 14:45, 4 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Some Sources[edit]

I Will try to add info whenever I can, request other editors to check theses books too. cheers--DBig Xray 18:16, 6 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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