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This subsection does not represent the neutral point of view that Wikipedia is supposed to have. The Davenport-Hines "criticism" is dated 1998 and the "apology" is 2005 (the Hari criticism, dated 2004, is a dead link), so only tenuously connected. I propose deleting the subsection, but will leave for a while in case there are any comments. If the subsection is to stay, it should be written in a more balanced way. Tony Holkham(Talk) 11:29, 27 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Deleting sourced material does not seem the way to go. I am probably being dim, but could you please spell out in which direction you think the lack of neutrality lies? SovalValtos (talk) 17:04, 27 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Being accused of something (in this case homophobia, but that's by the way) and then being contrite about it some years later is not encyclopaedic, in my view. Utley writes about almost everything under the sun, and for this instance to be highlighted doesn't seem particularly balanced in the context of the whole article. I have noticed a tendency throughout WP to add a "Criticism" section to BLPs; to do so without some other information about the person makes it look as though WP is being used as a soapbox. I have no problem with the section being left as it is, as I do not take a position on the criticism, but just because it is sourced it doesn't mean it should be there. Hope that makes sense! Tony Holkham(Talk) 17:26, 27 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Your explanation makes sense. I am removing the section. SovalValtos (talk) 11:43, 28 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
So is Mr Utgley reliable for information about himself if published in the DM (to be more precise is the DM an RS for what Mr Utley says?)?Slatersteven (talk) 16:11, 12 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
