Talk:Thomas J. Cram

	Biography portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography, a collaborative effort to create, develop and organize Wikipedia's articles about people. All interested editors are invited to join the project and contribute to the discussion. For instructions on how to use this banner, please refer to the documentation.BiographyWikipedia:WikiProject BiographyTemplate:WikiProject Biographybiography articles
	This article is supported by the military biography work group (assessed as Low-importance).
	An editor has requested that an image or photograph be added to this article.

United States: Military history Low‑importance

	United States portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject United States, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of topics relating to the United States of America on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the ongoing discussions. Template Usage Articles Requested! Become a Member Project Talk Alerts United StatesWikipedia:WikiProject United StatesTemplate:WikiProject United StatesUnited States articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
	This article is supported by WikiProject Military history - U.S. military history task force.

Military history: Biography / North America / United States / American Civil War

This article is within the scope of the Military history WikiProject. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the project and see a list of open tasks. To use this banner, please see the full instructions.Military historyWikipedia:WikiProject Military historyTemplate:WikiProject Military historymilitary history articles

This article has been checked against the following criteria for B-class status:
Referencing and citation: criterion met Coverage and accuracy: criterion not met Structure: criterion not met Grammar and style: criterion met Supporting materials: criterion met

Associated task forces:
/
	Military biography task force
	North American military history task force
	United States military history task force
	American Civil War task force

WikiProject class rating[edit]

This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as stub, and the rating on other projects was brought up to Stub class. BetacommandBot 09:31, 10 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

DYK nomination[edit]

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: rejected by Amkgp (talk) 17:34, 18 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(

Comment or view
Article history

)

... that U.S. Army topographical engineer Thomas J. Cram had to negotiate a treaty of passage with the Ojibwe Chief Cha-sha-o-sha before he could complete the 1841 boundary survey between Michigan and the Wisconsin Territory? Source: "In the summer of 1840, Cram led his party up the Menominee River to its source at Brule Lake (not Lac Vieux Desert), where he negotiated a treaty of passage with the Ojibwe Chief Ca-sha-o-sha to continue the survey." Surveyor's Tree Blaze from www.wisonsinhistory.org
- ALT1:... that Michigan sued Wisconsin based on the boundary defined by U.S. Army topographical engineer Thomas J. Cram in 1841 and claimed that his survey cheated them out of 800 square miles (2,100 km²) of land? Source: "Years later the state of Michigan maintained that Captain Cram had not interpreted the boundary description correctly and had thereby deprived Michigan of some 800 square miles of territory." Those Army Engineers - A History of the Chicago District U.S. Army Corps of Engineers. John Larson (1979), page 49.

5x expanded by Dwkaminski (talk). Self-nominated at 20:54, 5 February 2021 (UTC).[reply]

This is not a 5x expansion. The preexpansion version was 1,880 bytes of prose and the version from the expansion is 5,982, for a bit over 3x. Articles that start out over 1,500 characters of prose are challenging to expand fivefold. – Muboshgu (talk) 22:58, 17 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]