Talk:Thomas Hagan

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Purpose of article?[edit]

It isn't clear to me what this article includes that isn't already in Malcolm X#Assassination and Hayer affidavits. Per WP:BIO1E, I think this article should be turned back into a redirect. — Malik Shabazz ^Talk/_Stalk 05:01, 22 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No, this is biographic article on Thomas Hagan and not Malcom X or the affidavit. Naturally there is some redundancy regarding the assassination and his affidavit (which is no problem though), but other than that this article contains details on Hagan having nothing to do Malcolm X or the affidavit nor would there be any place for them in those other articles.

To quote from your cited policy: "On the other hand, if an event is of sufficient importance, even relatively minor participants may require their own articles, for example Howard Brennan, a witness to the JFK assassination." : That imho is clearly the case for Hagan and there is no reason why shouldn't provide more biographical background on him.--Kmhkmh (talk) 11:49, 22 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

fourth man's identity[edit]

I removed the sentence about the identity as it is not confirmed or even mentioned in the given source. If the name is nevertheless given somewhere in Marable's book then this book page needs to be cited rather than the NPR report:

The fourth gunman, William Bradley, was identified as the shooter of the shot gun that actually killed Malcolm X, according to historian and Columbia University professor Manning Marable in his publication of "Malcolm X: A Life of a Reinvention.^[1]

--Kmhkmh (talk) 11:29, 22 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ "Manning Marable's 'Reinvention' Of Malcolm X". All Things Considered, NPR, 5 August 2011

Recent events in 2021[edit]

With Raymond Wood recently dying, and statements read afterwards that implicate a possible conspiracy, it would be interesting to try to get to the "truth of the matter" so to speak. Evidently wikipedia can not base its content on theories based on what people may say (not everyone is saying the truth), but factual statements can still be integrated (such as the testimony of Raymond Wood), as well as asking Thomas Hagan whether others were involved. The article here presently states that he rejected the claim that the other two were implicated (mentioned in the article), but what about others aside from these two? Because if Raymond Wood's storyline is correct (let's assume this for the moment), then it evidently means that there MUST have been some form of conspiracy, evidently, as the capture of the two bodyguards was not "random" but planned (although this is probably hard to prove, and impossible once all involved are dead, if only due to old age; Thomas is also quite old already). 2A02:8388:1602:6D80:3AD5:47FF:FE18:CC7F (talk) 10:37, 22 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

killed or granted parole Feb 2021?[edit]

I am confused. The article seems to indicate Hagan was killed the same day he was granted parole. 2A01:CB1A:4016:F998:0:4A:E343:8B01 (talk) 07:43, 22 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Pretty much fake info--V DE VICTINI (talk) 08:27, 22 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

There have been a lot of unsourced recent edits that caused this confusion/contradiction. I reset the article to the last proper version from late last year. If there is new development please do not add material without providing sources as well. As far as his parole is concerned, he was released on parole during spring 2010. That info is already in the article and sourced.--Kmhkmh (talk) 00:47, 24 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

[1] "Manning Marable's 'Reinvention' Of Malcolm X". All Things Considered, NPR, 5 August 2011

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