Talk:Thomas Gage

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Untitled[edit]

Did I do this right? I tried to make a citation and borrowed some code from another article. It seems to look pretty good but I don't know what's expected here. -Kroyw

Early life[edit]

Aside from additional inline citations, this article now has nothing on Gage's early life, which was in previous iterations. The family had lived at Firle Place in Sussex for many years, and the piece needs to have at least a bit on Gage's background, aside from his military exploits. I will try to restore it when I have a moment. Regards,MarmadukePercy (talk) 23:00, 31 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

jjk —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.248.121.2 (talk) 15:42, 22 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright problem[edit]

This article has been reverted by a bot to this version as part of a large-scale clean-up project of multiple article copyright infringement. (See the investigation subpage) This has been done to remove User:Accotink2's contributions as they have a history of extensive copyright violation and so it is assumed that all of their major contributions are copyright violations. Earlier text must not be restored, unless it can be verified to be free of infringement. For legal reasons, Wikipedia cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material; such additions must be deleted. Contributors may use sources as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences or phrases. Accordingly, the material may be rewritten, but only if it does not infringe on the copyright of the original or plagiarize from that source. Please see our guideline on non-free text for how to properly implement limited quotations of copyrighted text. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously. VWBot (talk) 14:14, 10 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Pontiac's rebellion[edit]

Is the section on Pontiac's rebellion necessary here? Gage, who went from Montreal to New York, is barely mentioned in a section about events in Michigan and the Great Lakes. I think the whole section - although it has a source - is really not about Gage and should be taken out.Polkadreamer (talk) 18:48, 1 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Removing this section (as you did) leaves the impression he played no role whatsoever in Pontiac's Rebellion. Since he was CinCNA during it, and ordered troop movements (as documented in what you removed), this is clearly false. Perhaps you could research more substantive contributions he made in dealing with the uprising. Magic♪piano 19:21, 1 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Magicpiano is correct in stating that Gage was Commander in Chief at the time - yet there were a hundred other events that happened while he was C in C that are not mentioned in the article. He "ordered troop movements" routinely. I submit that Pontiac's Rebellion should be part of articles on Amherst, Johnson, and Robert Rogers, since they were directly involved with it, but my original question is unanswered: why is a section on Pontiac's Rebellion necessary to an article on Gage, who was six hundred miles away when it happened?Polkadreamer (talk) 20:14, 2 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Jeffery Amherst was also "six hundred miles away" and was also probably not personally involved (to my knowledge, which is admittedly weak on this detail). His policies may have played a role in the start of the rebellion (along with the notorious smallpox controversy), but it was on Gage's watch that the rebellion was brought to an end. If it deserves mention in Amherst's article because of his policies, it deserves mention here because of Gage's. As I said, if you think the coverage weak, feel free to improve it. Magic♪piano 21:01, 3 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

"Pyrrhic victory"[edit]

Ive had to revert back in the 'citation needed' tag for the text in bold several times. The statement in question is as follows:

"After the Pyrrhic victory in the June Battle of Bunker Hill he was replaced by General William Howe in October 1775, and returned to Great Britain."

This is a comparison between the Battle of Bunker Hill and the Pyrrhic Wars. It is uncited. The stated comparison from the Lede exists nowhere else in the article. For these reasons, they cannot be compared, as they are OR. - Jack Sebastian (talk) 02:36, 6 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I will cite this. However, I will also point out that, in the time that it took you to add the tag and complain about it being reverted, you could have researched and cited it yourself. It's not like sources are in short supply.Magic♪piano 03:08, 6 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I just inserted one of the many cites available. Calidum ¤ 06:15, 6 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Likewise, in the time it took you to revert this several times, your time could have been better spent finding the requested source. It wasn't as if I was asking you to determine if any odd perfect numbers exist or anything. If I had the time, I'd have done it. As it was, I tagged it so peeps with time could. - Jack Sebastian (talk) 16:25, 6 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]