Talk:The Three Musketeers (Studebaker engineers)

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Article milestones
Date	Process	Result
March 27, 2021	Good article nominee	Listed
February 26, 2023	Good article reassessment	Delisted

A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on April 1, 2013.

The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that The Three Musketeers were the nucleus engineers of the Chrysler Corporation?

Current status: Delisted good article

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Did Chrysler really "commandeer" those three engineers? Johna (talk) 23:16, 1 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:The Three Musketeers (Studebaker engineers)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: JPxG (talk · contribs) 02:00, 26 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I'll do my best! jp×g 02:00, 26 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

In progress, will finish in a bit. jp×g 05:41, 26 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Copyvio[edit]

Y Earwig's detector shows no copying.

Stability[edit]

Y Article has been quite stable over the course of almost a decade.

POV[edit]

It's not Chrysler propaganda or anything, but some stuff in the lead seems a little glowing: famous engineers, among the finest.

Done rewrote accordingly to remove POV.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 19:46, 26 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Media[edit]

Y All media are illustrative and freely licensed.

Focus / scope / coverage / completeness[edit]

Y Seems to pretty effectively cover the career of these three guys in their careers as engineers, from the beginning to the foundation of Chrysler.
What did they do after 1925? It seems like they ought to have had a good number of productive years after that.

Prose / MoS / ref check[edit]

Y All refs check out.
Concerned about the Allpar refs, since these are posts on a Mopar forum of unclear authorship. While I don't doubt that they are true, I think that they should be at most used in conjunction with other refs.

Y All refs have been supplanted except for the three model names of the cars ("Light Four, Light Six and Big Six models").

N "Zeder designed cars as an engineer technologist using mathematical laboratory parameters under controlled conditions as a university trained engineer." As a mechanical engineer who has worked in the automotive industry, I have no idea what this means. I'm currently trying to load an online version of Curcio 2001 so I can see what spawned this sentence.

Y Fixed.

Conclusion[edit]

@JPxG: All issues have been addressed. Can you take another look. Thanks.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 19:49, 26 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@JPxG: So far this month I have made 22 Good Articles. You know the date, so you can see what I am aiming for during this month.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 17:16, 27 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Doug Coldwell: I think we are in, if not the same boat, similarly shaped boats: I'm trying to get to 20 reviews this month myself. I am starting to think it might be possible... jp×g 19:22, 27 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Doug Coldwell: Have finished fixing the refs and added some content about the three engineers themselves, as well as their activities subsequent to 1925. Will pass now. However, I recommend that some further expansion be done on the three's careers after 1925 (I added some stuff from Curcio 2001, but there is more that can be found from the index.) jp×g 20:54, 27 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright contributor investigation and Good article reassessment[edit]

This article is part of Wikipedia:Contributor copyright investigations/20210315 and the Good article (GA) drive to reassess and potentially delist over 200 GAs that might contain copyright and other problems. An AN discussion closed with consensus to delist this group of articles en masse, unless a reviewer opens an independent review and can vouch for/verify content of all sources. Please review Wikipedia:Good article reassessment/February 2023 for further information about the GA status of this article, the timeline and process for delisting, and suggestions for improvements. Questions or comments can be made at the project talk page. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 09:36, 9 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]