Talk:The Little Mermaid: Ariel's Beginning

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Last Disney Sequel?[edit]

You Forget that movie will be the last Sequel of Disney. -Benzy19

Is there any references or sources for that statement?--EclipseSSD (talk) 18:53, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Here it is! Watch this![1] Benzy19 22:30, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
That links just says that the sequels are ending. It doesn't say that TLM III is the last one -- Shadzane (talk) 00:15, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sigh... Can't we wait in regards to Marina Del Ray?[edit]

Look, No Offense, but I think we should wait until it's release in august to See if Marina Del Ray really IS Ursula or not. I mean, it's going to go into edit wars, which would eventually lock the character page due to constant edits all over. And anyways, I do have my views on the relationship between Marina and Ursula, but that's an entirely different matter. ~~Weedle_McHairybug~~ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.32.185.55 (talk) 23:53, 18 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Even if people do manage to see the movie before the official release date, that information cannot be added to the article according to wikipedia policy. So yes, please wait! Annie D (talk) 00:29, 19 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Preceded by/Followed by[edit]

I believe that in articles of Disney's francine of The Little Mermaid, this article should have something in the information box say " Followed by The Little Mermaid ", but that it was preceded by nothing, and for the article of The Little Mermaid II: Return to the Sea, it should say in the information box " Preceded by The Little Mermaid " and that it was followed by nothing, and that way people know correctly that Ariel's Beginning is the first in the continuity, and Return to the Sea is the third and last in continuity. --PJ Pete June 28, 2008

Ok, I suggest we place this on Protect mode[edit]

Someone is editing the Cast section to say that Prince Eric is going to be in this movie, even though we never had proof that he IS going to be in this movie. I think we should place it on protect mode until the movie is released, so things like this don't happen again. Weedle_McHairybug —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.32.152.31 (talk) 00:13, 29 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Cleaning up the synopsis section[edit]

The tone of the synopsis is a little iffy, and often unclear- "Benjamin" is sent to jail without having been previously mentioned, the mention of an underwater desert seems contradictory, and other such things. I cleaned it up a bit, but not having seen the movie, I can't really clarify these things. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tozoku (talkcontribs) 01:40, 27 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Other things about synopsis I don't understand: Who is Sebastian and why is Ariel surprised to see him? What is Sebastian's job (the one Marina wants)? What are Marina's "pets" (why the quotes)? What is a coral log? Shadzane (talk) 19:43, 27 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]


OK, now the synopsis has been completely changed and the above discussions no longer apply. Now I want talk about this sentence:
A pirate ship approaches and they attack, stealing the merpeople's possessions.
That is not how I interpreted that scene. Yes, the pirate ship approached (too fast and seemingly out of control), but I don't think they were stealing the merpeople's possessions, or even aware that the merpeople were there. It looked to me that they were inadvertently scattering the merpeople's stuff with their anchor and wake...Shadzane (talk) 23:52, 1 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree, because every hook(?) or line the pirates threw out hit the merpeople's possessions accurately, I interpreted that as intentional. I can see your POV as well, so perhaps the sentence should be reworded to be more ambiguous. Annie D (talk) 00:46, 2 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Continuity section[edit]

The new continuity section has no sources, and it reads to me like original arguments about how Ariel's Beginning and the TV series fit together (or don't). I know I've seen this stuff mentioned in reviews of Ariel's Beginning, so we should be able to find sources for most of it.... -- Shadzane (talk) 00:13, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I personally think it's worth mentioning but I doubt that it was a big deal to Disney that they broke continuity, so I reduced it to one sentence about the contradiction. Feel free to restore if you can get proper citations, though. Just a note, I refer to the Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles and John Connor articles about how to explain continuity contradictions, because they handle a load of continuity-breaking, but keep it simple and straightforward. Annie D (talk) 00:23, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I have an idea. We could keep the Continuity section, but we also mention the various plotholes between this movie and the first movie. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.32.212.200 (talk) 18:16, 21 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Response/reviews[edit]

There's been some responses and reviews up on the web, here's some links if anyone wants to compile them in the article:

I'm not sure how notable these articles are for wikipedia, though. Annie D (talk) 09:56, 7 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Here's another:
Thanks! I've added it. Annie D (talk) 22:46, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Marina's daywear[edit]

I was just reviewing the end credits to fill up the infobox, and I found out that Marina's costumes were designed by Bob Mackie. It's definitely notable to have such a famous designer on the production team, but I have no idea how to put this in the article without looking like trivia. Thoughts? Annie D (talk) 23:05, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Character Designer is a major credit on an animated film, so maybe it should be in the infobox? Of course, you'd have to list the other character designers too. Alternatively, if there is some anecdote about how or why Bob Mackie was chosen, you could add it to Production section. Either way, you should definitely add Mackie's credit to the Marina section of Characters of Disney's The Little Mermaid; it will not look odd there. - Shadzane (talk) 05:58, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Explanation of revert[edit]

I just reverted an edit that added (1) text to the plot, in order to keep the word count down, and the additions were not vital to understanding the overall story, and (2) a mention that the movie is a prequel to The Little Mermaid II: Return to the Sea, as that is redundant as it has already been mentioned that it is a prequel to The Little Mermaid. Annie D (talk) 05:32, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

editsemiprotection[edit]

There's one error in the story telling. The part that says Ariel pushes her aside is wrong as 'her' is refering to Sebastian.

Notes[edit]

Here's a suggestion, you can write that few scenes of The Little Mermaid 2 is repeated in The Little Mermaid 3, for example the scene when Attina combs her youngest sister's hair, Ariel is similiar to the part when the latter combs her daughter's hair, Melody.

A Commons file used on this page has been nominated for speedy deletion[edit]

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You can see the reason for deletion at the file description page linked above. Community Tech bot (talk) 22:21, 22 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of The Little Mermaid: Ariel's Beginning's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "VarietyReview":

  • From Leroy & Stitch: Laydon, Joe (June 27, 2006). "Review: 'Leroy & Stitch'". Variety. Archived from the original on December 1, 2016. Retrieved November 30, 2016.
  • From The Little Mermaid (2018 film): Kiang, Jesssica (August 16, 2018). "Film Review: 'The Little Mermaid'". variety.com. Variety. Retrieved August 18, 2018.
  • From Inside Out (2015 film): Debruge, Peter (May 18, 2015). "Cannes Film Review: Inside Out". Variety. Archived from the original on July 26, 2021. Retrieved July 26, 2021.
  • From Bee Movie: McCarthy, Todd (October 28, 2007). "Review: Bee Movie". Variety. Archived from the original on June 23, 2018. Retrieved October 1, 2014.

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT 11:01, 9 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Emoji Movie[edit]

The entire reception section has been replaced with that of The Emoji Movie. This is an intentional prank as a quote from a review of the emoji movie has been awkwardly altered to include elements of the movie Scansoriopteryx (talk) 01:00, 25 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]