Talk:The Last Ninja

Wii

I can see we require some clarification here. The North American Wii version is exactly as the North American release of this game ran. This is not the PAL game run on NTSC hardware. Graphics corruption and choppy gameplay result from running the PAL version on NTSC hardware. If you play the NTSC version on NTSC hardware side by side with the PAL version on PAL hardware, the only difference you will notice is music speed as the SID chip's regulation was ignorant of all timing except the HZ of the power. If you play the NTSC version on PAL hardware you get PAL musical speeds. If you play the PAL version on NTSC hardware, you get NTSC musical speeds. In both cases, other events will break based on video timing, rendering games with a weird flicker if they are not entirely unplayable. In the case of Last Ninja 2, for example, if you ran the PAL version on NTSC hardware, it would corrupt if you left the very first screen and become unplayable. NTSC fixing a Commodore game required a small amount of work, and variable changes on timing; but it was work that MUST be done for most games.

Nothing at all could be done for SID files without rewriting them entirely, and in most cases it was decided as not worth doing. I used to be captain Kidd from Eaglesoft. We NTSC fixed games all the time; that was how we beat releases to the shelves in America. In some cases, the pirates actually WOULD rewrite the SID as well, resulting in a hybrid version with music more true to the original release then what you bought in the store. SoheiFox (talk) 02:14, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

In fact, in the case of Thrust, just such an event occured, and the pirated NTSC was then PAL fixed back, however it had already been a hybrid port with PAL speed music on NTSC hardware, and when re-cracked back to PAL territories, you ended up with something that ran at effectively 10hz slower musically then the actual shelf release. Which was fine, because the shelf release in the UK had a horrible squeal over the title music that was supposed to go away. Many young Brit pirates didn't mind the slower speed, so long as the squeal routine stopped when it was supposed to. Point I'm making is the Wii variation in NTSC territories ran exactly as the NTSC releases ran in NTSC territories. SoheiFox (talk) 02:22, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Music

The music should be mentioned. It might be one of the most recognized pieces of C64 music. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.227.118.180 (talk) 21:06, 22 January 2010 (UTC)

NPOV?

This seems to be taken directly from some marketing blurb, and the footnote links to the homepage of the game designers:
There is no C64 gamer that has not heard of The Last Ninja. Even today, people still talk about the impact it had on the gaming world."[12] Should be scrubbed IMO. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Empaler (talk • contribs) 17:45, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
Empaler (talk) 18:00, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

ZX Spectrum version

It most certainly exists. Watch on YouTube —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.163.35.18 (talk) 20:51, 25 December 2010 (UTC)

- That's a mighty fine video of Last Ninja 2, there. The first game does not exist on the Speccy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.160.13.59 (talk) 09:33, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

- Most definitely was on the Spectrum platform. I had the game. It came in a box with a plastic shuriken coaster and a thin black ninja hood. The game wasn't in colour. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.1.44.68 (talk) 10:40, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

- You had a copy on the spectrum? Sure ya did, guy. Got a link to any proof of that at all? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:2D80:AE11:4400:78C0:64C3:5DC6:A437 (talk) 01:02, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

Reception

The articles claims that the game was the most successful game on the C= 64, with a quote of 4,000,000 sales for all platforms combined. Yet the Last Ninja 2 page cites sales of 5,500,000 copies sold on the C=64 *alone*. No matter how you count 5.5 millions is higher than 4 millions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Taotriad (talk • contribs) 09:23, 13 July 2016 (UTC)

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