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Can it be shortened to The Cwm, Monmouthshire? It is the only The Cwm article, so could also be shortened to that, but not sure if it is used colloqually for places named Cwm. Double disambiguators are rare and seems not needed from the outset. WP:PLACEDAB and WP:NCGN#Wales. Unless there are other "The Cwm"'s in Monmouthshire, which would've justified this title? DankJae 21:32, 21 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hi DankJae - Compliments of the season, and I hope you are keeping well. In terms of the title, it very likely could be shortened. But The Cwm (A hollow at the top of a valley) is quite common. It’s rather like Ty Mawr (Great/Big House), of which there are at least four in Monmouthshire. We have Cwm, Llanrothal, on that flexible English/Welsh border. We have Cwm, Blaenau Gwent, over the county border now but historically in Monmouthshire, and we have these, without Wikipedia articles at present; Cwm, Welsh Newton, The Cwm, Llanfair Discoed, Cwm Farm, Coed-y-paen. More widely, there are others in Wales, e.g. Cwm, Denbighshire. As to Llantrisant, we have Llantrisant, Rhondda; Llantrisant, Anglesey, and Llantrisant, Monmouthshire. So that wouldn’t work. The Cwm, Monmouthshire would likely work for now, subject to somebody writing about the owl sanctuary at Coed-y-paen, or the religious sanctuary at Llanfair Discoed. Personally, just The Cwm, seems a bit brief, and I think a strong argument could be made that if we were to have one article titled, The Cwm, The Cwm, Llanrothal is historically more important than this house. Anyways, very happy to go with whichever title you think best. KJP1 (talk) 06:02, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
If it was assumed that those other "The Cwm"s could become articles then I can see how the existing title was chosen, especially the Llanvair Discoed one. Although are the settlements colloquially referred to as "The Cwm"? Seems like saying "the Newport"? There are many Ty Mawrs, I should know as I created two, so they did need disambiguator tags. Nonetheless, as this was the only "The Cwm" article the double-disambiguator tag seemed odd, so questioned it, probably best to leave it as it is, to make it easier for newer "The Cwm"s, as you've stated there are other Monmouthshire ones. Thanks for the response!
I'm fine, Happy holidays to you too! and hope you're fine as well. Came across this article while looking through the list of standardised Welsh place-names in Monmouthshire, hopefully I linked to the correct articles. Diolch a gwyliau hapus! DankJae 14:38, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@DankJae - now you know you've just forced me to do an article about that bloody owl sanctuary! All the best KJP1 (talk) 14:57, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@KJP1, oh apologies, sorry. DankJae 15:07, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
