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Krugerrands[edit]

"By the end of their operations, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms (ATF) obtained 155 Kruggerands,"

Uh, is it illegal to collect Krugerrand?. Or you are supicious only for not having your wealth frozen in current FAKE dollars (Federal Reserve Notes)?.

Collecting ~~German~~ South African money is something that is stereotypically associated with American white supremacists, presumably due to the association of ~~German~~ South African money with ~~Nazis~~ Apartheid. (That'll teach me to post without double checking. :-P). So it is relevant, as circumstantial evidence of their beliefs. 24.183.96.25 (talk) 23:53, 5 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

They were illegal to import into the U.S. between 1985 and 1994 (and possibly before 1975). Rmhermen (talk) 19:34, 6 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Unclear sentence[edit]

"There are several claims that the April 19, 1995, Oklahoma City Bombing was tied to the COE siege have come about."

Besides the last part of the sentence not fitting in, what is the COE? --64.24.181.159 21:40, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I am interested in the source on the LOCATION of CSA. The property sits directly on ARKANSAS property, not Missouri. The group got it's mail at it's Pontiac, MO address. Not 'Elijah' and referred to their property as Zaraphath Horeb. (Not Zarabeth ... as mentioned in one reference source.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by CultArmorer (talk • contribs) 15:54, 13 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Rude Boys & skinheads[edit]

...the 'Skinhead' movement that originated in Britain in the 1960s and came to prominence in the 70's, and from which came the 'punk rock' aspect of music.

Punk rock did not come from skinhead culture. Skinheads found punk rock and adopted some of its sound. See the Wikipedia entry on Oi![1].

Originally, in Britain, they were 'The Rude Boys'.

Unless this is in reference to some organization that I am not familiar with that referred to itself as 'The Rude Boys,' as a proper noun, this is wrong about rude boys. Rude boys were rough and tumble Jamaican kids, almost like American "gangstas." Generally up to no good, but not truly hardened criminals. The term was adopted during the British ska revival to refer to any ska fan. It has nothing to do with Nazi skins or white power. See the Wikipedia entry on Rude Boys [2].

Regardless of this writers intent, "Skinheads" are a big city racist movement filled with malcontents ... or, at least in the 80's when I was associated to a few in federal prison, they were enjoying some popularity. They showed up in numbers at Robert Miles "The Mountain Church" in Cohoctah, Michigan when he held open meetings of Aryan associations. As for 'The Rude Boys', I have NO knowledge of that or it's relevance to the Aryan groups. —Preceding unsigned comment added by CultArmorer (talk • contribs) 10:11, 18 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Tom Clancy reference[edit]

I don't understand where this comes from. can someone explain please. Skhatri2005 02:52, 18 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

In the book Rainbow Six, Clancy apparently says that The Covenant, the Sword, and the Arm of the Lord used bank robberies to support itself. PubliusFL 08:02, 18 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Note to Snell[edit]

"[Note on Snell: "Wayne" as his friends called him, was an anomaly amongst the racists. His fetish was black women and pornography, and he operated autonomously using the CSA compound as his 'hole in the wall'. His running mate, Steven Scott, gave up this information in a federal prison holding cell to one of the then members. Both, practices of race mixing and lewd and lascivious behavior were forbidden by doctrine, though polygamy was prominent.]"...

Can this be verified thru a citation? This is very intresting and if it was true, then this Wayne certainly is an anomaly among racists... 69.250.130.215 15:40, 13 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well, the 'cult armorer', Kent Yates, is here to tell you that Snell's running mate, Steven Scott, told him of 'porn shoots' and Snell's passion for Black women on more than one occasion while we were locked up together. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.84.247.240 (talk) 16:31, 26 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

My apologies: I don't know how to 'sign' and the page on that has just confused me more ! Since Penthouse called me 'The Cult Armorer' that is what I use here: 'CultArmorer'. —Preceding unsigned comment added by CultArmorer (talk • contribs) 01:17, 24 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

FBI Files[edit]

Has anyone read the files that the FBI have about "The Covenant, The Sword, and the Arm of the Lord" (or abbreviated to CSA)? They are available on the FBI electronic reading room website. They can be read from here: [3]. Adamdaley (talk) 23:57, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

take down story[edit]

I took down a lot of the story - it was rubbish - there is little value to the note of this story iho - I support delete but have scalped it as a compromise Mosfetfaser (talk) 15:59, 20 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Reverted sock edits Ronhjones ^(Talk) 17:29, 25 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

capitalization[edit]

Why is the second "the" capitalized in the page title? This seems like it was done on purpose and not in error, but I can't seem to figure out why. -- irn (talk) 15:18, 13 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]