Talk:Taede A. Smedes

Taede A. Smedes

Hi Firefly322. Just to say that I've tagged up your article on Taede A. Smedes for its notability. The academic the article describes is not obviously notable. Their CV cites only a few, recent publications (although it looks out of date), and they appear to be an early-career researcher rather than someone firmly established in the field. Can you improve the article to make the notability clearer? I'm not an expert in this field (to say the least). Best regards, --PLUMBAGO 09:31, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

He identifies himself as philosopher of religion and as a free-lance writer. He has works to show this and these are right on the leading edge of current religion and science research, as shown by getting a direct response from Ian G. Barbour ( an A-list intellectual in this field and the 1999 Templeton Prize winner). Smedes basic claims to fame are as a philosopher and as a free-lance writer; evidence being his works being peer-reviewed . As a writer, the so-called wikipedia "professor test" is a mis-application of wikipedia guidelines. Such an application of the so-called "professor test" would have made the early Albert Einstein non-notable. Now I would be willing to wager that Smedes is not the next Albert Einstein, but I would also be willing to wager that this sort of mis-application of wikipedia guidelines will sooner or later create a great deal of embarrasment for the reputation of wikipedia in the future. --Firefly322 (talk) 13:58, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

This is a very strong WP:stub article in the Religion and science category. The article should be left be. --Firefly322 (talk) 14:04, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Also I hope that you aren't trolling articles [1], which is what your orphan tag of this article suggest. This too will just lead to embarrassment for wikipedia. --Firefly322 (talk) 14:08, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Please don't accuse editors of trolling, it is perfectly normal practice to add an orphan template to an article with no or very few pages linking to it. Teapotgeorge^Talk 14:27, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Teapotgeorge. I think that Firefly322 is confusing me with someone else anyway - I don't think I've edited the article that the link above connects to, and I didn't add the {{orphan}} tag here either. --PLUMBAGO 14:57, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Notability

So far the article consists of one line "Taede A. Smedes is a philosopher of religion and a writer." With no explanation of why he is considered worthy of an article? It would appear to be a candidate for speedy deletion. Teapotgeorge^Talk 14:25, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

In passing, according to the ISI Web of Knowledge, Smedes has published 4 articles in the past 5 years (all in the journal Zygon), which have garnered 6 citations from other workers in total. That doesn't sound a lot to me, but I accept that he's also published at least one book (and some fields favour this over journal publication). Anyway, while speedy deletion's a possible route to pursue, I was hoping that the article could be expanded first to elucidate why this individual is notable. Firefly322 - I don't think that attracting the attention of a notable writer is enough to confer notability. Cheers, --PLUMBAGO 14:57, 10 October 2008 (UTC)