Talk:Tackle (football move)

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The length of copy ascribed to each code in this article is inversely proportional to the importance of the tackle in said code. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.45.98.59 (talk) 04:03, 3 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Association football (re: tackling with both legs)[edit]

The reference added does not support the claim that tackling with both legs is in itself illegal. (see: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Alza08#Tackle_.28football_move.29). The Daily Mail, as a tabloid paper, is not a suitable authority on the laws of association football, and it has completely misrepresented what Mike Riley said. Even if it had quoted him correctly, he can only offer advice to referees he is in charge of. This advice is not binding, nor is it relevant to anyone in the rest of the world.

The article refers to "two footed" tackles, which is a colloquialism. What this actually means is a challenge where a player lunges directly towards at an opponent, with no contact with the ground. Collquialisms aren't encyclopaedic, so it's best to describe what is illegal and what is legal in clear language.

Tackling with both legs is only illegal if it is careless, reckless, or excessively forceful as described on page 36 of the 2014/15 FIFA Laws of the Game (pdf: http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/footballdevelopment/refereeing/02/36/01/11/27_06_2014_new--lawsofthegameweben_neutral.pdf).

I have provided an example (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7Rnt5C2qaQ) of a tackle that is made with both legs, which is neither careless, reckless or excessively forceful and hence legal. Why this was ignored and removed is beyond me.

I have requested a third opinion on the topic at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Third_opinion to prevent revert warring. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.148.88.67 (talk) 01:47, 20 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The reference provided of the laws of the game is rather clear in this case (FYI: We don't normally accept youtube vids per WP:RS). I've made an appropriate change. Barts1a / Talk to me / Help me improve 03:56, 20 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I'm happy with that compromise. Regarding the youtube video - I didn't see an express ban on these on WP:RS. It's footage of an international football match which is probably pretty reliable - is the problem that it's a primary source and that I've added interpretation to it? 134.148.88.67 (talk) 04:12, 20 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Which is most likely why your edit kept on getting reverted. I know that if an IP was adding a youtube link to an article then I would probably do the same. I would strongly recommend getting an account if you plan to keep editing here. Barts1a / Talk to me / Help me improve 04:38, 20 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Strip Sack tackle and Bolo tackle[edit]

There are two specialty tackles I'd like to see on this page. The first is the "strip sack" tackle, I believe introduced by Lawrence Taylor. If the ball carrier's back is to the tackler (e.g., when tackler makes a blind-sided rush at the QB), the tackler raises his arms up and then chops down on the ball carrier's arms just as he tackles. Often, the ball is knocked out of the carrier's arms. At worst, the ball carrier is still enveloped in the tackler's arms and usually goes down.

The other tackle is the "bolo tackle", which also causes fumbles. This was a specialty tackle of one college player, I believe in Texas and between 2005 and 2013. I'm surprised I can't find a reference for it - the player was up for defensive player of the year. Anyway, the bolo tackle had the tackler running at the side of the ball carrier. For the ease of explanation we'll say the tackler is on the ball carrier's left. With the tackler coming in, the ball carrier would hunker down, with the ball in his right arm to keep it away from the tackler. The tackler would aim his body slightly behind the ball carrier, grab the ball carrier's left shoulder pad with his left hand, and then the tackler's momentum would whip his body around that of the ball carrier and he'd punch the ball out with his right fist. When it worked, the ball would go flying out. When it didn't work, the ball carrier may have only been thrown a little off balance and might continue running down field.

Mdnahas (talk) 16:30, 27 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]