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So when was he born really? As it is, the entry is inconsistent even within itself; http://www.britannica.com/eb/article?tocId=9072743 and many other online sources give 27 Jan 1848, but both previous years are well-represented as well. --Malyctenar 11:07, 24 Jan 2005 (UTC)

I have corrected his dates of birth and death based on ja: zh: and other sources. 22 December 1847 is indeed based on Japanese lunar calendar, but it is not December, but rather the 22th day of the 12th lunar month of Koka 4. Similarly, we cannot correctly call the Chinese New Year as January 1, but the 1st day of the 1st Chinese lunar month is more accurate.--Jusjih 07:15, 18 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Can whoever wrote the part about his studies in Europe add citations for the quoted parts? Also please keep the quotation marks consistently British style (single quotes, and double quotes inside single quotes). --Kenji Yamada 04:56, 28 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The correct Japanese pronunciation is Kajiyacho, with a "j". See... http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=%E9%B9%BF%E5%85%90%E5%B3%B6%E5%B8%82%E5%8A%A0%E6%B2%BB%E5%B1%8B%E7%94%BA&sll=31.595407,130.551546&sspn=0.012867,0.019312&g=Kagoshima,+Japan&ie=UTF8&ll=31.587328,130.547748&spn=0.012868,0.019312&z=16

I made the change.

--Westwind273 (talk) 00:10, 14 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Heihachiro a Shinto kami?[edit]

On the Tōgō Shrine page, it is indicated that Heihachiro is celebrated as a kami there. Do the rest of you think that it would make sense to include this article in the Category:Shinto kami on that basis or not? John Carter 14:33, 11 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Redirection of pages[edit]

If i enter Togo into the search, it simply comes up with a Japanese stub article regarding a rollercoaster. Can i change it as Togo has many meanings and im sure the Emporer is better known than other ones?--CorrectlyContentious 15:23, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

My bad.... its ok if you dont use capitals and then the page which does come up has disambiguation clearly shown on Togo the african country, thanks.--CorrectlyContentious 10:14, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

The Sinking of the Kowshing[edit]

All the legal opinions I have been able to find concerning the sinking of the Kowshing confine themselves to the shipping line's claim for compensation and whether or not the sinking was legal as war had not been declared resulting in the Chines governmaent having to opay the owners. Nobody appears to have addressed the question of the treatment of the 900 Chinese troops who were killed. Togo went to some lengths to pick up European survivors but let the Chinese drown. This is one thing but shelling the lifeboats - whilst only minor in comparison to worse atrocities comitted by the IJN - is more than negligent. I can find no opinion that addresses this point. The soldiers had not mutinied against their own officers but against the ship's captain whom they had employed to carry them. To describe this as showing Togo to have been a master of international shipping law looks like abject hero-worship. Even if he was allowed by international; law to sink lifeboats, this was at best a technical loophole for mass maurder. Togo's example is important in influencing later IJN practice -, not least because the tradition of easy fleet victories led them to neglect protection of their merchant marine with inevitable catastrophic results. Streona (talk) 11:09, 8 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Naming order[edit]

I found contemporary newspapers called him "Heihachiro Togo" https://www.nytimes.com/1934/05/31/archives/admiral-togos-home-to-become-a-shrine-funeral-for-japanese-hero-is.html and from the 1990s https://www.nytimes.com/1992/02/23/books/there-goes-democracy.html

However I can see continuing to use "Tōgō Heihachirō" if the overall balance of sources use Eastern Order. WhisperToMe (talk) 03:44, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Russo-Japanese War (1904–1905), Battle of Tsushima: Russian Losses[edit]

'of the 36 Russian warships that went into action, 22 were sunk (including seven battleships), six were captured, six were interned in neutral ports and only three escaped to the safety of Vladivostok.'

22+6+6+3=37, not 36. Bekho.hu (talk) 05:14, 27 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]