Talk:Swastika, Ontario

It's all opinion

They even use first person in that last paragraph. The history is fairly sound, and interesting to read. But this was definitely written by someone from the town. - Darkhawk

http://flickr.com/photos/pjl/50591624/in/set-652789/

On this page, the following was posted:

"Actually, I grew up there too, and I know the reason it was named that... It's an old Native word meaning the cross between two roads. I did a project about it in College. It was the crossing of the Trans Canada Highway and the Railroad... right where my house used to be, I lived on the corner just as you get into town..."

So was the town named after the mine? Maybe not... perhaps more investigation will let us know.

I fixed the POV in the last paragraph. It now sounds more like history and less like opinion. Billy Bishop 04:44, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

I found more info from the History Channel site —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.141.202.56 (talk) 00:23, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Population?

The population is anyone's guess, and the vagueness of the article makes me think it's not exactly booming. That, along with demographical information, would be informative. -- Wi2g 22:39, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

I think someone may have used an inappropriate 'find/replace' when writing/ editing the meaning of 'swastika'.

It's not a 'Native American' term, it's from the Sanskrit (i.e. 'Indian' from India!) term 'svastika', and does indeed translate (loosely) as 'good luck' -- as also noted on the Wikipedia page 'swastika (symbol)', which is linked further down this article.

80.147.18.98 (talk) 11:27, 7 April 2014 (UTC)

Edit Log

- Added reference for the naming of the town Phae girl (talk) 17:56, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

Geriatric Central

 The area around Swastika is a fairly large retirement area, Kirkland Lake, Elliot Lake, etc. Who gives a damn about whether or not the author of the article is a native of the town, who would know the place better?  

If that bothers anybody, go to the bloody place yourself and write your own article. As for the name of the town itself, well, the Germans used the name 'Hackenkreuze' for the most part, not 'Swastika'. Jesus Christ, more jabber about nothing. My two cents. JWJBain (talk) 10:55, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

A dubious claim of being conceived here is not enough to include a person's name in this article

I do not see any policy or guideline that indicates we should discuss a person as being connected to this settlement because of the legend that she was conceived here. For one, that is an unverifiable claim. The couple that did the deed that caused conception can hardly be styled as a reliable source on the subject. They are intimately involved quite literally. Second, I can't imagine what bearing the accident of conception of anyone has on this town, making inclusion of her off topic. Methinks you are doing what dozens of editors before you have tried, to wedge some reference to Nazism into this article which has no connection to it whatsoever. John from Idegon (talk) 03:59, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

Quoting from Tristin Hopper's article in The National Post "David Freeman-Mitford had purchased a claim in the Swastika area as part of a bid to top up his flagging income with a Canadian gold mine or two. Coming to Ontario in 1912 (where he apparently just missed booking passage on the Titanic), the aristocrat endured Ontario mosquitoes while his wife Sydney kept house at their small frontier mining shack. “He and Sydney were at their closest in the shack at Swastika through the winter in that inhospitable climate,” wrote Mary S. Lovell, in The Sisters : The Saga of the Mitford Family. “It was there that Sydney conceived their fifth child.” "As a teenager infatuated with Nazism, she had moved to Germany in the early 1930s and embarked on a quest to meet the Fuhrer in person. Her strategy was to stake out Hitler’s favourite Munich haunt, Osteria Bavaria. After months of not-so-subtly gazing at the German leader from a reserved table, she was finally waved over. The encounter was “the most wonderful and beautiful day of my life,” Mitford would later write. And purportedly, one of Mitford’s conversational icebreakers with the Nazi leader had been to describe her links to a town called Swastika." "By the count of biographer Michaela Karl, Unity Mitford met with Hitler 140 times between 1935 and 1940."

Consequently, the Mitford conception story and her known historic conversational opener with Hitler, is far from dubious. The mention of Mitford's connection to Swastika, Ontario, is decidedly on-topic. Ontarioboy 16:25, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

Sorry, being in someone's womb is not a connection to the town. She was not born in Swastika, as a matter of fact she never set foot in the town. BTW, you might want to compare her Wikipedia biography to the stellar piece of journalism you wish to link. It's obvious the author lifted large parts of it from Wikipedia. John from Idegon (talk) 16:20, 6 February 2017 (UTC)

I dunno. I accept your point about the reference being wikicircular, but I think it is nonetheless uncontroversially true, just based on timing, and given that five out of seven of the Mitford spawn were , each in hir own way, crazy as shithouse rats, I can see where this mighta been significant to Unity. Anmccaff (talk) 18:24, 6 February 2017 (UTC)

Ask yourself what more you actually know about the town after reading the link? I've been around Wikipedia for 5 years and there has been a constant battle to somehow connect this place with Nazism. If this information would not be relevant if her object of fascination was say, Stalin (a contention that would get little if any resistance), why is it relevant because it was Hitler? Would her Hitler obsession be relevant to this settlement article if the name of the settlement was Fleur de Lis? John from Idegon (talk) 19:24, 6 February 2017 (UTC)

Well, that's just it. If rumor- or fact- had it that a prominent person with a crush on Unca' Joe has been born in the town of Hammer'n'sickle, East Overshoe, I suspect you'd get exactly the same traction. It's several pieces of trivia intersecting, and at some point that become notable, in a very minor kind of way.

Notice, BTW, that I ain't restoring the edit; it's bad, yes. There might be a good version out there, though. Anmccaff (talk)

Someone just added an even worse source for this; I'm surprised such a thing could exist. Anmccaff (talk) 04:49, 14 April 2017 (UTC)

References

Gold discovery

It was the discovery of gold along the banks of the local lake that led to the opening of so many gold mines. This point is of note, to add context as to why mining started and why people were drawn to Swastika.[1] C. W. Gilmore (talk) 04:52, 10 November 2017 (UTC)

And for that matter, how reliable are mining geological reports for historical records, of the gold mining in the area; it would seem that they would be of reasonable reliability given the firm's reputation is on the line.[2][3] C. W. Gilmore (talk) 10:14, 12 November 2017 (UTC)

map?

Is it possible to put in a map showing where it is? I was able to get there through the coordinates (3 steps), but many articles about places have a map to make it easier. --Richardson mcphillips (talk) 16:58, 25 April 2019 (UTC)