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This article could also use some orthographical adjustment to bring it more into line with the established transliteration standard(s). Keldan 06:39, 7 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This article is pretty confusing: reading authors like Titus Burckhart, Henry Corbin and William Chittick, I came across much more ciherenet shchemes: Hahoot/Lahoot, Jabroot, Malakoot, Nasoot. This is emenationist cosmology, rather similar to the Kabbalah or Neoplatonism. It is extremely weird to put the prophet Mohammad in a "realm" between Hahoot (God's Essence, Absolute) and Lahoot (Manifest God, God with 99 names). The emanationist ladder presented here is very, very confusing and, I'd say, arbitrary. Bardon Dornal 13:54, 22 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Confusion of 2 schemes[edit]

The page contains 2 esoteric cosmology views superimposed, resulting in a confusion.

One is a Neoplatonic one, with wolds (Alamut):

Hahoot
Lahoot
Jabroot
Malakoot
Nasoot

The other is mostly Hermetic, with 7 spheres and Qur'anic concepts like Arsh, but also Neoplatonic like Ruh-i-Quddus or Aql-i-Awwal/First Intellect, identified with the Pen, and the Nafs-i-Qulliya, interpreted as the Tablet. Here you have a polarity not present in the Alam scheme. One just cannot mix the emanationist Alam scheme (Jabroot...) and the Hermetic one (Arsh, Aql, Nafs, 7 spheres..). Another "problem" is Nur-i-Mohammadi, identified with Logos or Aql-i-Awwal. The result is a confusion.Bardon Dornal 16:51, 23 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No anonymous unsupported interventions, please[edit]

Other schemes should be incorporated, but in a reasonable manner. The throne and the rest are parts of other cosmological schemes. Bardon Dornal 07:42, 31 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please refer to actual hadiths.[edit]

In the main text you'll see mentioning of a Hadith Qudsi which reads,"I was a hidden Treasure; I desired to be recognized so I created the creature". But there is no actual reference to any Hadith book. Instead it's referenced to a book featured on Google Books with pages that aren't accessible for viewing. If you really want people to take heed of it as a Hadith then you should at least be able to provide a valid source to the Hadith. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ismacil1440 (talk • contribs) 21:58, 10 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]