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Cubic meter, but which way?[edit]

Is a stère the voume which one cubic meter of solid wood occupies after cutting, or, is it the amount of cut wood which fills one cubic meter? --198.49.180.40 (talk) 20:24, 30 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That is to say, is a stère 1000cc's of wood, or is it 1000cc's of space which happens to have pieces of wood in it? --198.49.180.40 (talk) 00:22, 17 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It's just volume (or space) and it's a million cubic centimetres. JIMp_talk·cont 02:08, 22 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sir, you miss my point: is it a million CC's of wood, or is it a million CC's of space which happens to be filled with pieces of wood, occupying less than a millon CC's in and of themselves? --198.49.180.40 (talk) 20:36, 10 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You must see what I mean: a million CC's of wood equals a stère if and only if one of the following is true: Case 1 - if a stère were defined as a cubic meter of space which might have any kind of pieces of wood in it AND this particular stère happens to have a 1-meter-cube of solid wood in it, or, Case 2 If a million CC's of solid wood were the definition of a stère, no matter how that wood might be cut, shaped, situated, co-located, or oriented. If it's the first case which is true, then, a million CC's of wood oocupies a larger volume than a * A million CC's of solid wood is the definition of a stère, except in the special case of a solid 1-cubic-meter piece of wood. I'm asking which it is: A cubic meter of absolute wood, or, a somewhat smaller (depending how the pieces are sized and shaped) volume of asolute wood which could more-or-less fill a cubic meter of space if those pieces of wood were to be stacked, piled, poured or otherwise located within that space. Thank you very much. I don't believe I'm being obtuse here. The article genuinely fails to adequately explain this to a person who isn't already first-handedly familiar with handling stères of wood. --198.49.180.40 (talk) 20:49, 10 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

OK, here's the simplest possible way to ask this question: If I call a merchant and order a stere of wood, and they bring it over and deliver it to my place, can I put the delivery into my cubical wood-box that I have, which is one meter on a side? Or will the delivered wood overflow this one-cubic-meter box, due to there being air spaces between the pieces of wood? Please hurry and answer, they're on the way and I have to figure out where I'm going to put the wood :D --198.49.180.40 (talk) 20:55, 10 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Firewood is measured in the natural stack. The firewood includes the holes in it. A stere is what ye can fit into a cu metre, while a cord is what ye can fit into a 4×4×8 foot prism. It's like bushel of grain: it includes the holes.Wendy.krieger (talk) 11:01, 16 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Move back to Stere[edit]

A few years ago, someone moved Stere to Stère with the edit comment "spelling". But the normal English spelling does not have an accent (cf. Oxford English Dictionary s.v. stere and various dictionaries at [1]), so WP:EN tells us to use the form stere. Of course, the French name is spelled stère, but this is not the French WP. Any objections to moving it back to stere? --Macrakis (talk) 13:54, 20 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No objections, seems appropriate. > Minnecologies^Talk 13:52, 21 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If that's the English spelling, why not? JIMp_talk·cont 02:10, 22 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move[edit]

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The result of the move request was: page moved. I'll add that the opinions voiced before the discussion was tagged were considered. Vegaswikian (talk) 07:41, 29 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Stère → Stere — Normal English name per WP:EL; see discussion at Talk:Stère Macrakis (talk) 21:26, 22 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. That some online dictionaries publish sloppy versions isn't cause for WP to follow suit. The English application is used in RS (for instance The Telegraph) and other language WPs also heed the origin spelling. deMURGH ^talk 00:24, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

a) The cited dictionaries include the online versions of the OED, the Random House Dictionary, the Collins English Dictionary, and the Encyclopedia Britannica (in addition to the Online Etymology Dictionary). As far as I know, the online editions of these dictionaries do not spell "stere" any differently from the dead-tree editions.

b) The article you cite in the Telegraph is an "Englishman in France" story, so it is not surprising that it uses the local spelling of 'stère'. --Macrakis (talk) 02:44, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Strongly support. The OED lists stere first, and all three of its quotations support that spelling; the loss of accent is fairly common with French words actually adopted into English - compare naive. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 01:51, 27 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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