Talk:Stamen Grigorov

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Permission[edit]

The following message was put on my talk page so I changed the article back.

Hi Kjkolb,

I noticed that you have deleted the entry for Stamen Grigorov, possibly due to copyright violations. The text was placed there on request of the D-r Stamen Grigorov foundation (Sofia, Bulgaria) and they are the authors. Please, revert to the original text!

Kind regards

Mario Kostadincev admin@stamengrigorov.org

-- Kjkolb 01:02, 18 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Bulgarian myth: In other natural climatic conditions the bacteria quickly degenerate, lose their qualities and die.[edit]

Truth: the original bacillus is superior; and other countries have produced correctly Bulgarian yoghurt (but mostly produce non-Bulgarian types). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2a02:2149:8209:7100:cbb:84bb:a6b5:97b3 (talk • contribs) 22:33, 26 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, it seemed dubious to me that the climate of Bulgaria has some unique attribute that is critical to the bacteria's survival. Furthermore, this phrase is quite awkward: "the true cause for the existence of natural yogurt." As opposed to fake causes for yogurt? As opposed to the existence of artificial yogurt? 24.9.129.83 (talk) 08:13, 27 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, that claim was peculiar, and the cited article (quoted correctly here) says "one of the many places in the world". The following sentence also did not correctly reflect the cited article. So I've removed these peculiar claims. --Macrakis (talk) 20:59, 27 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 27 October 2020[edit]

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iojehkc ihiu 72.224.139.20 (talk) 19:50, 27 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Not done Zoozaz1 talk 19:51, 27 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Tuberculosis[edit]

The current text reads:

...Grigorov contributed to the creation of a tuberculosis treatment in 1906, along with Albert Calmette. This used penicillin fungi for the treatment of tuberculosis. Through his scientific experiments in-vitro and in-vivo on lab animals and later on human patients, Grigorov demonstrated the healing effect of penicillin fungi in the treatment of tuberculosis.^[1]

^ "The Anti-tuberculosis vaccine", La Presse Médicale (Paris) 104 (20 December 1906)

I have not been able to track down an article about tuberculosis by Grigorov in that source or any other, or citations to such an article. I am beginning to wonder if this is true. Does anyone have a better source? --Macrakis (talk) 20:57, 27 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Addition of Dr. Grigorov's Military Service in WWI[edit]

links claiming that he served in WWI as a Medical Officer: https://www.hayvine.com/social/everything-to-know-about-stamen-grigorov-and-his-yogurt-discovery https://heavy.com/news/dr-stamen-grigorov/#:~:text=A%20Not%20Even%20Past%20feature,registered%20as%20a%20medical%20officer

these links also contain a few other facts which may merit placement on this page — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1702:1FC0:2480:4DE:DBFF:DA0C:916 (talk) 21:30, 27 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Those sites don't look like reliable sources under Wikipedia rules. There seem to be a lot of sites with "random facts" about Grigorov, but very few seem solid. --Macrakis (talk) 22:15, 27 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

[1] "The Anti-tuberculosis vaccine", La Presse Médicale (Paris) 104 (20 December 1906)

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