Talk:Spin (propaganda)/Archives/2013

{{Globalize}} tag

To read this page you'd think either that either Wikipedia editorship or the concept of spin was restricted to the UK. Angr (talk • contribs) 18:22, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

It would be good to add examples of spin in other countries and how they address it. MrMurph101 20:31, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

If anything it's more American-centric now than UK-centric, but it's hard to say it's truly globalized yet. I don't have the time right now, but maybe we can make this thread a collection spot for sources describing spin in other countries. I'll start with a few I have from other English-speaking countries. Please incorporate them into the article or add others below. -Thibbs (talk) 01:39, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

• "Scots polling dearth and political spin" - News Net Scotland
• "The Top 10 political and media failures of 2010" - ABC (Australia)

Merge?

There is a section about spin in the public relations article. Is it necessary for spin to have its own article?

Add fictional spin doctor

Tony from The hollowmen — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.152.164.179 (talk) 22:57, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_relations#Spin Miles Blues (talk) 05:47, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

But the the article there is more of a sidenote. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Starlightcrystal (talk • contribs) 07:57, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

etymology

The political-jargon use of this word may originate in the 1980s, but isn't its history much older? To "spin a yarn", meaning tell a story, has been used in the sense of telling lies for centuries, and I'm sure I remember "to put a good spin on things" being used colloquially in the sense of presenting one's case well (with no element of deception) way back in the 60s - though I may be mistaken. But someone ought to check into that. The idea that it all started with the acronym doesn't ring true for me. That sounds like a folk etymology or (if it turns out to be verifiable) at least a post ex facto development. A case for "World Wide Words"? --Doric Loon 12:09, 24 Feb 2005 (UTC)

It was also my understanding that spin was something used in billiards or snooker. To 'put spin on a ball' (aka English) was to strike the ball off center with the tip of the cue causing it to diverge from the path. To 'put English on a ball' or to 'put spin on a ball' was to use this technique.

I would also suggest that this may be derived from "spin bowling", a term from cricket whereby the direction of the ball is changed by the deliberate spin applied to the ball by the bowler, in an attempt to deceive the batsman (although I don't have any direct evidence that this is part of the term's origin). Guinness2702 2005-07-21T1518(BST)

I've got William Safire's "Safire's Political Dictionary". It has the definition of spin as well as an etymology. I'll put it up in a sufficiently unplagarized version. (I do know that CCR may have used the phrase in a song...)User:Orville Eastland

"Sufficiently unplagarized version"? It doesn't matter how you re-write it at all; if you ripped it from Safire you're still plagiarizing.--dlainhart 03:06, 18 September 2005 (UTC)

No it isn't. Ideas aren't copyrighted; words are.

Besides, if it's not too long, you should copy the text without making any changes to it. Really?? Yep. Then you should write where you got it from. It's called a "quotation", and it's a better solution, because it provides a reference at the same time.  :-) — Omegatron 01:04, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

Đʛ[[]]I do not believe in such as it is abhorrent to democracy 212.85.15.84 12:42, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

I have always thought that the word has different origin. My opinion was that they "spin you around" till you lose balance and sense of direction.

Peregrin Falcon (talk) 20:15, 16 December 2013 (UTC)