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Original research in the article[edit]

The additional table is unsubstantiated. No reference is provided. It is obviously the result of the author's opinion that regarding the mentioned astronauts their mission roles and/or funding sources are similar to those of spaceflight participants; therefore this qualifies as Original Research and editorializing. Hektor (talk) 20:51, 6 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. The opinions are ones I have read elsewhere, but are also fiercely contested, as attempts to grandfather flights done prior to the space-tourist-era into this category. If a person didn't pay for a flight themselves, they don't really count. Sharman, a professional scientist paid for her work, is little different to a shuttle payload specialist, who are not tourists. The only possible close one is Akiyama, whose bosses paid for him to experience - however, even then, he was paid, not paying, for the experience, as a salaried professional. I would cut this table as misleading. SpaceHistory101 (talk) 17:59, 22 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Spaceflight participant != space tourist, so who paid for the flight is not relevant. Yi did not pay for her flight. A list of space tourists can be found at space tourism. Rillian (talk) 19:37, 22 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry, I'm not understanding the point you are making. If it doesn't matter who paid for the seat, then all NASA astronauts are space tourists. What am I missing in your assessment? I suspect we're in agreement, but your point is not clear. SpaceHistory101 (talk) 15:57, 23 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I think the point is that "spaceflight participant" is a title used by National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) and the Russian Federal Space Agency (RKA). (Much like Payload Specialist, Commandor, Pilot, Mission Specialist and Flight Engineer). A space tourist is someone that pays his own flight. Before spaceflight participants, there were similar "external" crewmembers, who did not carry the title spaceflight participant, but would have carried that title in modern times. I do agree, that this latter table is somewhat OR... On the other hand, it is true, and it could be argued that astronauts flown on Intercosmos program qualify as well. More neutral language is required however. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 16:46, 23 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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In this article, it is not clear that spaceflight participant is "astronaut" or not.

("not a astronaut" means "a tourist"?)

And if it means not, why are "Sheikh Muszaphar Shukor" and "Yi So-yeon" in the list? They are not different from other "first astronauts" of countries.

They selected among applicants, trained in other country, sent to the space by other country's spacecraft, performed experiment in the space.

I think its definition should be more clear, and delete "Sheikh" and "Yi" from the list OR add all the astronauts sent to the space in similar way.

Flatengine (talk) 17:30, 12 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Substituted at 21:58, 26 June 2016 (UTC)

Christa McAuliffe[edit]

What is she doing in this list. She was PS2 on her flight. Hektor (talk) 16:10, 2 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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