Talk:Southcote, Berkshire

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Re-write[edit]

I have just undertaken a huge re-write of this article. Previously, there were few citations and huge parts of the history section were copied directly from Victoria County History. I propose that detailed information of Southcote Manor/Lodge/House (particularly architectural information) is split into a separate article. matt (talk) 12:30, 31 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Reviewer: Sainsf (talk · contribs) 05:14, 2 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]


Looks a good one. Will get to this in 24 hours. Sainsf <^>Talk all words 05:14, 2 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • In Lead
  • town of Reading You need not include "town of" in the link
  • Southcote has a population of about 8,500 Please mention the year of the census in the lead.
  • The lead should be expanded so that it covers all parts of the article.
  • In History
  • This section is very well-written. Good job!
  • In Early history:
  • dated from the 8th or 9th century Could the numbers be put to words? That is what the MoS says for numbers less than or equal to ten. Same could be done for 5 villagers and 8 smallholders in the next section.
  • In 11th – 15th century:
  • Who is "Brictward"?
  • lord of the manor "l" is in caps in the lead but small here.
  • In 16th century – 19th century:
  • 15th-century Hyphen is not used in similar cases elsewhere.
  • In 20th century:
* In the 1990s, however, the building was renovated and re-opened as a restaurant Source?
  • In Government
  • I think this section should come after Demography.
  • At the same time the election timetable was ... comes up for election. Source?
  • Why are certain names in bold in the table?
  • In Geography
  • Duplinks: Borough of Reading, Norcot, River Kennet, Ordnance Survey, semi-detached, Fords Farm, Great Western Main Line
  • Say either Borough of Reading or Reading Borough Council throughout the article.
Which of the two have you stuck to? Sainsf <^>Talk all words 16:04, 5 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Reading Borough Council (RBC) by default, and to avoid confusion about the geographical area I've used "Reading" rather than "Borough of Reading". The latter was superfluous. matt (talk) 15:39, 24 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Coronation Square is a maintained area of grassland in the centre of Southcote. source?
  • In Demography
  • Education in Southcote is lower than the Reading and national average. I think this sounds weird. You could say something like "Secured percentages" or "marks" or "grades", not education itself.
  • In Economy
  • The 1888 Kelly's Directory...and carters I think at least some of the professions do not need links. It looks like overlinking.
  • Are links needed for kennels and vineries as well?
  • In Culture and community
  • Conservative Party is a duplink
  • Could the pie chart be pulled a bit upward, it pushes the image below it way downward.
  • In Transport
  • Plenty of duplinks: Reading to Taunton, Southcote Junction, Coley Branch Line, Burghfield, Great Western Railway, Newbury, Kennet and Avon Canal, Southcote Lock, Burghfield Bridge, Coley Park.
  • Southcote is situated north of the M4 Motorway, approximately half-way between junctions 11 (Reading central) and 12 (Reading west). ; The canal is accessible from footpaths near Burghfield Bridge, Southcote Mill and Fobney Lock. Source?
  • In Education:
*Duplinks: Elvian School, free school
  • Should the part of Demography dealing with education of the people be shifted here?
  • Is the section "Notable people" properly sourced? For instance, where is the source that shows Mike Oldfield is from Southcote?
Plenty of sources to show that he attended school at Southcote, but nothing to show he lived there (rather than perhaps slightly further afield in the Reading area). Alumni of the school should be in the school's article, so I've removed it. matt (talk) 15:56, 24 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Comments[edit]

Thanks very much. Agree with (and have actioned) most of your points. Anything in need of sources is in progress, as is an expansion of the lead. Only comments from me are:
  • "In Government [...] I think this section should come after Demography."
I have followed WP:UKCITIES for this, though I'm not precious about the order! :)
  • "In Culture and community [...] Could the pie chart be pulled a bit upward, it pushes the image below it way downward."
Pulling up the chart would mean moving it out of the section, so while it would look right on desktop browsers it may render badly on mobile devices. I think the canal photograph is more important to the graph (which just illustrates the prose anyway) so if this needs resolving I wouldn't be against removing the chart.
Thanks again for the review. matt (talk) 13:45, 5 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I am quite overwhelmed by your thanks ;) ! Alright, I agree with your points here. I have struck out the resolved issues and pointed out a few more issues. If the recommended order for the sections has been followed, then I have no objection. I leave the pie chart for you to handle. Sainsf <^>Talk all words 16:04, 5 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Mattgirling: Hi! Saw you were back after nearly a week, so pinged you. There are only a few things left, we could finish them off soon. Sainsf <^>Talk all words 18:44, 14 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Mattgirling: Over a week since I last pinged you. I am sorry, but it is already late and if any response from your side is delayed by another three days I shall be forced to fail this nomination. Sainsf <^>Feel at home 09:08, 22 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Sainsf:Noted—very grateful for your help. Sidetracked by real-life unfortunately! On my to-do list...! matt (talk) 10:42, 22 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. I just needed an update. Please give time for real life first, this can wait so long as you keep updating. Sainsf <^>Feel at home 10:46, 22 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Mattgirling: Splendid! The article looks perfect to me now. It meets all the GA criteria- no unsourced claims, no copyvio, very well-written and well-illustrated. I am happy to promote this. It was a pleasant read, and a pleasure working with you. Sainsf <^>Feel at home 16:11, 24 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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