Talk:Somatic

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This would be excellent page to use to summarize the relationship between different somatic practices. There are many contemporary systems beyond Feldenkrais and Alexander. It would be good to sort-of summarize things here.

Hans Joseph Solbrig 21:23, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

This article as currently written has little to nothing to do with Anatomy. Removing the Anatomy stub.Derek Balsam 20:29, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

I've done quite a bit of rewrite on this now, and it's cleaned up and wikified. It's long and complete enough to move out of stub status now, I think. Derek Balsam 03:34, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

D&D

Would it be relevant to add the usage from D&D? ("Somatic component to a spell", meaning any physical or bodily motions which are performed.) -- 65.60.222.179 19:38, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

It really would, as it's a related but distinctive usage. I have no idea where to find good sources for this, though. --166.249.131.132 (talk) 03:46, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

No, this is simply an example of "somatic" meaning "of or pertaining to the body." It's not a different meaning. --Karinpower (talk) 06:05, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

Somatic pain

As a paramedic student, I'd like to see "Somatic Pain" (sharp pain) be refrenced in this article.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 74.225.184.20 (talk) 10:26, 30 September 2006 UTC

I'm not an expert in pain medicine by any means, but my understanding is that "Somatic Pain" does not specifically mean "sharp pain", but rather pain associated with a specific localized body part, whether sharp, aching, or throbbing. It is contrasted with "Visceral Pain". Given that the meaning of Somatic in "Somatic pain" is simply "pertaining to the body", which this article already states, I'm not sure that this article itself needs revision. However, it sounds like it may be useful to have an article entitled Somatic pain if anyone has the expertise to do so, and if the term is actually notable in medicine. Derek Balsam^(talk) 00:47, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

I was just reading an article on neuropathic pain containing the statement "Nociceptive pain can be somatic or visceral in nature." I came here to this web page to better understand this distinction, as my working def. of visceral is "soft tissues of the body", primarily abdominal organs. Does somatic in this context mean "all the other parts of the body not including the viscera"? Or have these labels been applied to the pain distinction itself and lost the original body referent? I don't think we need an entire article on somatic pain, that could well be incorporated here. I added the section title above. MaxEnt 22:27, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

horrible

Functional Somatic Syndrome redirects here, but the term is not defined in the text?

Fibromyalgia redirects to this page using the link Functional somatic syndrome. I have a suspicion that FSS (sometimes called "Disorder" rather than syndrome?) has a specific meaning, and it should perhaps be defined here. --Lasse Hillerøe Petersen (talk) 21:49, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing that out. In my opinion that redirect is inappropriate. I have marked FSS page for possible deletion, as there is no content. Perhaps a page could be created in the future, if someone has sources that discuss it. A quick google showed 9,000 results for that phrase (in quotation marks) so I would say that is probably is a term that is actually in use.

As to defining FSS here, that's simply another example of somatic meaning "of or pertaining to the body." So it doesn't need defining. From the FM page, the FSS page could be a redlink (appropriate to show the potential need of such a page) or "somatic" could link here. --Karinpower (talk) 06:30, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

Proposal of Disambiguation Page

This page now hosts a half-dozen competing definitions, overlapping to various degrees. The significantly differing medical and biological usages are most common, but the dance-related ones are clearly WP:Notable as well. Can we clear things up?

@FourViolas: Done. Fgnievinski (talk) 16:05, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

@Fgnievinski: Thanks! If I wanted to make a "Somatic (dance)" or "Somatic technique" page, would I change the "Somatic" page to "Somatic (disambiguation)" with links to (in biology (with a sublist)) and (in dance)? FourViolas (talk) 16:19, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

@FourViolas: I think it'd be better to leave the disambiguation at Somatic not "Somatic (disambiguation)". The dance part can go into its article provided it's more than a single paragraph. Thanks. PS: I'll have this talk page moved back to Talk:Somatic. Fgnievinski (talk) 16:29, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

References

Since I was asked about my cleanup template (I think it will call someone else to come through and do some cleanup, but that's always hit or miss): beyond the references given in the first lines, the first several appear to be intended to serve as an overview of a primary topic. If there is a primary topic involved here, then the page should be on that, and the dab should be located elsewhere. If the first lines can be reincorporated into the dab using dab format (one blue link per line, etc.), it might look something like this:

Somatic (from the Greek σωματικός), meaning "of the body", may refer to:

• Somatic (biology), [one-line summary with no blue links presenting the range of possible definitions, e.g. "referring to characteristics of body cells as opposed to reproductive cells", or whatever is appropriate]
• Proprioception [if there is any link that should go here at all based on these lines; the only links that should be used are things that can be referred to by the term "somatic" alone, so links to things like yoga should not be here], [one-line summary with no blue links]

Dekimasuよ! 18:39, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

Awesome, thanks for clarifying! I'm not sure which of those two directions would be best, so I'm going to leave it alone for now. I will mention that the page "Somatics" is not to my liking; I have proposed it be rewritten to cover the field of "somatic education," a broader topic with plenty of history to it. If that happens, that could affect how this page links to it.--Karinpower (talk) 06:02, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

As Karinpower knows, I have completely rewritten Somatics. I've adjusted somatic to reflect my changes. Somatics now includes a broad look at mind-body integration in medicine, traditional spirituality, and dance, all supported (including the adjective "somatic") by the best sources I could find. FourViolas (talk) 13:12, 15 December 2014 (UTC)