Talk:Shanghai Ghetto

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Shanghai Ghetto was one of the Geography and places good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.

Article milestones
Date	Process	Result
October 16, 2006	Good article nominee	Listed
September 16, 2007	Good article reassessment	Delisted

A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on May 12, 2006.

The text of the entry was: Did you know ...that in the Shanghai ghetto, a part of the city occupied by Imperial Japan, about 20,000 German and Austrian Jews escaped the Holocaust?

Current status: Delisted good article

Morris Cohen (adventurer)[edit]

Was he in the ghetto? I saw contradictory info from unreliable sources. ←Humus sapiens ^ну? 10:55, 18 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

John G. Stoessinger[edit]

I remove the description of John G. Stoessinger from "Partial list of notable Shanghai ghetto survivors". His family were ordered to move to the ghetto, but a diplomat named Manabe, who got acquainted with them in Trans-Siberian Railway, issue the special permit. --Pocopen 16:33, 18 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Since he was not in the ghetto, wouldn't the sentence about him better belong to Chiune Sugihara? ←Humus sapiens ^ну? 10:31, 23 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

GA on hold[edit]

This article will be put on hold (for 7 days) until these minor adjustments can be made :

1. Well written? Pass

2. Factually accurate? Fail

3. Broad in coverage? Pass

4. Neutral point of view? Pass

5. Article stability? Pass

6. Images? Pass

Additional comments :

As of now, only citations are inline cited though some material could be controversial so I request the addition of inline citations (maybe 5 ... the number is not important, what counts is what is cited) to the controversial parts of the article and to parts that could even be termed as original research to remove any doubt. Lincher 17:53, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Added a whole bunch and IMHO that already improved the article. Thanks for reviewing it. ←Humus sapiens ^ну? 23:19, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

GA passed[edit]

Adding such references already give credibility to the editors and to the sourcing of the material in the article. Thanks a lot for having taken the time to add those. Lincher 00:21, 17 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

GA delisted[edit]

In order to uphold the quality of Wikipedia:Good articles, all articles listed as Good articles are being reviewed against the GA criteria as part of the GA project quality task force. Unfortunately, as of September 16, 2007, this article fails to satisfy the criteria, as detailed below. For that reason, the article has been delisted from WP:GA. However, if improvements are made bringing the article up to standards, the article may be nominated at WP:GAC. If you feel this decision has been made in error, you may seek remediation at WP:GA/R.

The lead does not appear to adequately summarize the article.
Image:Jewish Refugees in Shanghai.jpg has an adequate fair use rationale. Image:19430218 shanghai herald ghetto restrictions.jpg is missing a fair use rationale.
Each web reference needs the author, publisher, publishing date and access date.
Every statement that is likely to be challenged needs an inline citation.

Regards, Epbr123 15:18, 16 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Name[edit]

I understand the edit to "Shanghai ghetto" but we should use the same formatting to the name in the lead sentence that we use in the article name. — $Llywelyn II$ 03:09, 15 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Similarly, both Ghetto and ghetto are fine for the running text of the article but we should be consistent in using one or the other for talking about the place in Shanghai. (Generic "ghetto" should be lower case regardless.) — $Llywelyn II$ 04:16, 15 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Image[edit]

One here that might be included when copyright expires. — $Llywelyn II$ 06:56, 15 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Original research[edit]

With due respect to Milan J. Voticky, the paragraph added by Louvo about Mr. Voticky's personal experience of a US air raid in Shanghai should be removed unless equivalent information can be found in a reputable secondary source (for example, a collection of survivor interviews). --Difference engine (talk) 07:23, 15 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

the info from Milan Voticky's unreferenced experience has been supplemented by Anka Voticky's published memoir, Knocking on every door. I have put the reference and a couple of sentences in from it. I do realize that memoirs can present a problem, but of course WP is full of references to published memoirs, particularly by war victims. If it is not a dominating reference or the major basis of an article, they can give an added dimension to an encyclopedia entry. --Joel Mc (talk) 10:33, 15 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Lead phrasing[edit]

I don't think Ohel Moshe needs to be mentioned in the lead paragraph. It might be better to say that the area was where the Russian Jews and Ashkenazi community had predominantly settled before the official creation of the ghetto, rather than focus on the synagogue specifically. --Difference engine (talk) 03:21, 16 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Wiki Education assignment: Migration in World History[edit]

This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 31 January 2023 and 19 May 2023. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Lihwu (article contribs).

— Assignment last updated by Lihwu (talk) 22:51, 28 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Plans and Principles[edit]

I think this article can use some clarification of some plans and principles for the whole migration process, so I will add the article written by Gao Bei — a historical professor at the University of Charleston—as a secondary source. The plans and principles are still missing in this article, so altogether I will add around 20 sentences. If anyone wants to comment on these changes, please let me know on this Talk Page or on my Talk Page. Lihwu (talk) 18:51, 2 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]