Talk:Shōnen Jump+

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Did you know... that due to its explicit content, a manga series on Shōnen Jump+ cannot be accessed via its iOS app, but is available on its website and Android app?

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Did you know nomination[edit]

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The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 13:29, 23 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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... that Shueisha and Marvel Comics produced a Marvel manga series which was named after and published on the Shōnen Jump+ online manga platform?
- ALT1:... that Shueisha, which is the publisher of Weekly Shōnen Jump, has launched an online manga platform called Shōnen Jump+ since 2014?
- ALT2:... that users of the Shōnen Jump+ app can purchase the digital version of Weekly Shōnen Jump, which is the best-selling manga magazine in Japan?

Created/expanded by Hijk910 (talk). Self-nominated at 15:48, 30 June 2020 (UTC).[reply]

A different hook is needed as the hook may not interest those who aren't fans of anime and manga. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 11:20, 1 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Guess I have no choice but have to bring up Marvel (is it broad enough?) then. Will supplement references and content for these hooks in the article later. Quite busy until weekends. Thanks for your comment. -Hijk910 (talk) 17:50, 1 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Oh, I found something: Template:Did you know nominations/Marvel × Shōnen Jump+ Super Collaboration. -Hijk910 (talk) 17:56, 1 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  - Article was created from a redirect within 7 days of nomination. Article is long enough. Nominator is QPQ exempt. No pings on Earwigs and no close paraphrasing. I agree that the hooks aren't interesting to a general audience, but unlike a lot of anime/manga articles that come across DYK, I think there's plenty of content here to mine for potential hooks. Something about how it came about in part because of Tōhoku earthquake and tsunami would be interesting. Morgan695 (talk) 23:21, 6 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Taking a look at the article, it appears that it might need some copyediting for grammar. As hooks, how about this?

ALT3 that the online manga platform Shōnen Jump+ was launched in part due to distribution issues as a result of the 2011 Tōhoku earthquake and tsunami?

The problem with this is that the article suggests that the earthquake didn't directly inspire Jump+ but rather its predecessor services, so a revision about this would be needed. In addition, the references about it need to be duplicated in the relevant sentences. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 00:32, 9 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Gave it a copyedit. A modified version of that hook specifying that it was the magazine's predecessor could work. Failing that, a hook about how it found commercial success because it was able to publish content that was more explicit than its sister publication would also be interesting. Morgan695 (talk) 01:47, 9 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The problem is that if we go with the "magazine predecessor" angle, it wouldn't really be about Jump+ anymore. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 03:51, 15 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It's still a fact in the article that relates to the subject material, so IMO it works as a hook. Alternate hook below. Morgan695 (talk) 03:59, 15 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

ALT4:... that the editor of the digital manga magazine Shōnen Jump+ attributes its commercial success in part to its ability to publish content more explicit than its print sister publication?

That sounds good, but as you proposed it a new reviewer will be needed here. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 04:08, 15 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The article text does not indicate the more explicit content is responsible for what I think is the very overarching statement of "its commercial success", but rather growth during one very specific and very short and early period. The article text portrays 2019 as a "breakthrough year", and relates this to an expansion of female audience and some of its comics receiving awards. CMD (talk) 06:06, 16 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

How about:

ALT5:... that due to explicit sex descriptions, a manga series published on Shōnen Jump+ online platform can be accessed only via its website and Android app but not its iOS app? (Source: [1])

To be exact, Saotome Shimai wa Manga no Tame nara!? and the first half of 2.5-jigen no Yuuwaku (and maybe some other series) are banned only on iOS app as well. -Hijk910 (talk) 09:04, 18 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Do you mean "depictions" not "descriptions"? This is quite long, instead of saying where it is accessible it's hookier to just say "cannot be accessed from its iOS app" or similar. CMD (talk) 10:28, 18 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Then how about: ALT5.1:... that due to explicit sex depictions, a manga series on Shōnen Jump+ cannot be accessed via its iOS app but available on its Android app? (Source: [2]) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hijk910 (talk • contribs) 15:16, 18 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

That might work with minor grammar tweaks, but this does not seem to be mentioned anywhere in the article. CMD (talk) 15:21, 18 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Added in the article. Thanks for your comments. -Hijk910 (talk) 15:33, 18 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Please expand further in the article, as it does not include information about the website or the Android app. It should be a more expansive than the hook. I would suggest actually taking that current article wording and using it here for the hook instead. For example, "... that due to explicit sex depictions, a manga series cannot be accessed via the iOS version of the Shōnen Jump+ app?" CMD (talk) 15:53, 18 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thought it was trivial. As you insist, I added it in the article. Let's stick with the contrast between iOS and Android versions. -Hijk910 (talk) 16:10, 18 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

There cannot be information in the hook that is not in the article. If you want to stick with ALT5's idea, I have made minor grammar tweaks. Please see below, and confirm it matches the source. CMD (talk) 16:26, 18 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

ALT6:... that due to its explicit depiction of sex, a manga series on Shōnen Jump+ cannot be accessed via its iOS app, but is available on its Android app?

While I think it is trivial to summarize what the hook says from the source, you may want sb who knows Japanese to double check it (while everyone knows it's about sex, the word "sex" can be found at nowhere in the source. The closest I can find is "a version with the nipples removed has been published"). I found an English related news as well: [3]. -Hijk910 (talk) 17:02, 18 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

ALT6.1:... that due to its explicit depiction of sex, a manga series on Shōnen Jump+ cannot be accessed via its iOS app, but is available on its website?

And I suddenly think it is better to compare it with the website. -Hijk910 (talk) 17:04, 18 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

What about simply saying "explicit content"? I think the implications would be clear. CMD (talk) 17:35, 18 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Let's go with that. Btw, the hook should be short enough to include both website and Android app after your simplification. Around 150 characters.

ALT7:... that due to its explicit content, a manga series on Shōnen Jump+ cannot be accessed via its iOS app, but is available on its website and Android app? -Hijk910 (talk) 17:44, 18 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

ALT7. CMD (talk) 22:33, 18 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

daddy — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:7000:C300:559F:9164:8E84:9BCC:AF03 (talk) 17:37, 16 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

DYK view[edit]

This article: 4,998 views
World's End Harem: 3,923 views
Ref: [4] -Hijk910 (talk) 12:48, 29 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Pageviews[edit]

The pageviews yesterday was 2,881, more than ten times of normal days. Was it due to Deadpool or Chainsaw Man? -Hijk910 (talk) 07:07, 10 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]