Talk:Seward Community Cafe

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This page should not be speedy deleted because...[edit]

This article should not be speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because the Seward Cafe has a long history with the larger co-op movement in the United States and the Twin Cities, and there are documents pertaining to its history archived at the Minnesota Historical Society. While I haven't had time to write them all down and edit them in, I did notice that there are pages referencing the obscure Maoist group that started the co-op wars in Mpls that the Seward was a part of, so if that meets notability guidelines, then certainly the Seward itself does. Also: I don't mean to be rude, but are you serious? There isn't much on this page because I created it maybe an hour ago. I see "stubs" all over this thing that need expanding, and this would be one of those. I will try to mark it accordingly, but...yeesh. — Hellorraine (talk) 01:05, 10 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Hellorraine -- the issue here is that the article doesn't assert why this cafe is important. For example (and I know these may be far-fetched examples, but I'm just trying to get my point across), was it the setting of a major television series? Is it considered a major tourist attraction? Is it a historical landmark? Is it part of a national chain? (If that's the case, an article on the chain would be better than an article on the individual restaurant.) Is it the regular venue for a major musical/sporting/other event at the regional or national level? If any of these are true, say so in the article -- that's your assertion of notability. Of course, all this doesn't matter if it hasn't been the subject of significant, reliable, coverage in independent secondary sources. Just the fact that the restaurant has been around for a while doesn't make it notable by itself. I'd suggest looking at our policy page on notability for organizations and companies to get an idea of what makes something notable. Mikaey, Devil's advocate 06:20, 10 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I would argue that it does fit under "historical landmark," as it played a part in the development of the cooperative movement in the Twin Cities in the '70s, and apparently the MNHS agrees with me here. I would also argue it's significant since it is one of the few establishments founded during that time that adheres to the same collective model as it did in the 1970s.Hellorraine (talk) 10:35, 10 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Seward Community Cafe is not a cooperative. It is registered as a non-profit, and this is in direct conflict with the notion that the cafe is "worker-owned". It was always considered a community cafe until sometime during this past decade when the workers started expressing personal ownership over the space. There is major dispute between members of the community and the close nit group running the space over the issue of worker-owned vs community-owned. The ideals of the 70s are no longer running the space. This article is a stub and more research should be done to make the article more accurate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.161.182.81 (talk) 05:06, 20 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately there is little written about Seward to verify your assertions, but it is most definitely a worker cooperative. Worker-run enterprises employ a variety of business models, including 501(c), so it is possible for the cafe to be both a worker cooperative and a non-profit. If you have any sources that indicate there is a dispute between the community and the cafe, we could incorporate that into the article. Lots of ideals from the 70s are lost, but I for one would not look forward to the return of The O. Gobōnobō ⁺ ^c 04:03, 22 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Vegetarian?[edit]

This page was linked to by List of vegetarian restaurants. I removed the link because Seward Community cafe serves meat. This is their menu, which includes bacon and pork sausages. Their about page also does not describe them as a vegetarian restaurant, it only says that they have vegan options. Cocaineninja (talk) 22:32, 19 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]